Kuala Dimensi Sdn Bhd chief executive Datuk Seri Tiong King Sing said the RM10 million he offered to MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat was donation.
On Thursday, Tee Keat wanted Tiong to explain whether the RM10 million was loan, donation, or bribery.
Tiong told Sin Chew Daily on Friday that the money was donation for MCA's activity fund.
He said if things would develop into this situation, he would have insisted to issue a cheque instead of cash.
"I helped you. So I was willing to donate RM10 million and didn't ask for repayment. However, your party members said that I didn't give you the money and were trying to ruin the reputation of you and MCA. I feel this is very unfair.
"I've ended up nowhere. And now the bank is after me."
Tee Keat's second question: If it was donation, as the donor, Tiong should know where the money had gone.
Tiong replied, "I've given you the money. God knows whom you've given the money to? Now you ask me where the money has gone!"
"I've given you the money. God knows whom you've given the money to?"
Question 3: The fifth ride on the private jet was done on Tiong's invitation.
"Yes, I indeed invited you aboard the jet, because I saw that your flight was delayed, so I invited you, along with Datuk Wee Ka Siong.
"I admit I've previously given you the wrong message.
"From what I've learned from my subordinates, Ong's office knew that they had to pay the fuel charges."
Tiong said Ong Tee Keat had never mentioned any amount of assistance, and that the amount was proposed by him to Ong.
He said someone had requested him to offer assistance to Ong and MCA, as he had political influences and network, and could help revitalise MCA. As such, he agreed to unconditionally offer financial assistance to MCA.
"I'm a part of BN. If BN could keep East Malaysia but not West Malaysia, this would affect the entire BN, especially MCA. So I agreed to donate to MCA as activities fund."
Nevertheless, Tiong refused to disclose the identity of the person involved, whether he was a politician or from MCA.
Also a MP for Bintulu, Tiong said he was not really a "close friend" of Ong, but he respected Ong and never questioned him how he would handle the money, because he was MCA president.
Other than political parties, he often offered financial assistance to Chinese associations as well as non-governmental organisation, including sponsoring needy students to study overseas without asking for repayment.
He said when he promised to donate the money to MCA, he did not ask Ong for any project or to endorse him in the PKFZ project, as his company had already completed the works.
"If I was unhappy with him or the authorities for investigating the PKFZ incident, would I invite him to take the flight with me in April?"
He also said the MACC had contacted his deputy CEO to make arrangements to further understand the details.
Tiong said he welcomed the MACC to investigate the RM10 million donation: "We're willing to cooperate and assist."
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Nobody in his right mind would give away RM10 million just like that unless he is hoping to get something in return or perhaps get away with something. In this case, RM500 million in fraudulent claims I guess.
It seems that this bugger had taken a bank loan and gave the money out as donation. I do not know what kind of a bank would give a customer some loan for the purpose of donation? If anybody knew this bank, please let me know. . ., I also want to borrow money from this bank and give out the money as donation!
He also said the MACC had contacted his deputy CEO to make arrangements to further understand the details.
Tiong said he welcomed the MACC to investigate the RM10 million donation: "We're willing to cooperate and assist."
wow 10 million cash!!!...this leaves me with too many questions to be answered.
who carries the 10 million?
who help to count the 10 million?
which bank issue the 10 million cash?
which security co. deliver the cash?
if it's a donation, Ong should issue a receipt so that Tiong can deduct from his taxes.
to donate 10 million, then Kuala Dimensi should be making tonnes of $$$$.
activities fund??? or political fund??? or corruption???
Even for the 1 ringgit donation for the bloggers fund organized by Raja petra , i still keep the bank-in slip.
10 million mega bucks No need ?
15 August 2009
Ronnie Liu’s assistant still in Serdang Hospital
Selangor Exco member Ronnie Liu said his assistant Wong Chuan How who fell while struggling with Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) officers in Sungai Pelek yesterday is still being treated at Serdang Hospital.
Liu said Wong fell to the ground when he struggled with MACC officers who tried to put him in a car to take him to the MACC office in Putrajaya.
"Wong went to Serdang Hospital at noon for treatment. He is still under examination and observation."
Liu hoped that MACC would give Wong more time to make his statement as he still could not walk and would need one week to recover.
Meanwhile, MACC in a statement clarified that Wong was never pushed by officers as claimed by him.
According to the statement, Wong fell to the ground by himself.
MACC explained that the incident occured at DAP's Sungai Pelek service centre today when seven officers went there to arrest him in connection with an ongoing investigation.
When they arrived at the premises, Wong and his lawyer were already there.
"Our officers served the notice of arrest under Section 53(3) of MACC Act 2009 on Wong.
"The officers also explained the notice to Wong and requested him to sign it but he refused," the statement said.
Wong was escorted to the MACC car which was parked outside the premises.
At this juncture, he refused to get into the car and walked away but the officers tried to stop him and insisted that he got into the car.
"He then fell to the ground by himself at this point," the statement said.
The MACC officers had lodged a counter police report.
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You think those goons will let him walk alone? Like TBH, also fell down on his own. Ha ha ha Hard to believe!
MACC with PDRM assistance, they can just rob away this DAP man lah.
Somemore Serdang Hospital also belongs to UMNO what? I think they will turn off all CCTV by now.
I visited Serdang Hospital before and it also has many storeys. They should try to bring him to the nurse hostel which is even higher. Easy to create commit suicide lor.
Alternatively this time should send him to Putrajaya and make another tragedy of Miss Tan Tu Ya.
now they start again, teoh's case still unsettle they create another case....
MACC....Malaysian Anti Chinese Conspiracy.
Why the needs for warrant of arrest if the MACC wants to questioning him and he is not proven guilty yet by the courts.
Why the needs to send 7 officers to arrest a person if you just wanna take him for questioning. I think MACC procedures is in questions and this shouldnt be the case becos TBH case is still under Inquest.
When this MACC going to use their brains to think and act. What happens to OTK and Tiong (PKFZ) case, shouldn't Tiong and OTK be arrest too?
Do your jobs proper, MACC goons.
" According to the statement, Wong fell to the ground by himself ".
But WHY is it whenever the MACC is around, people start FALLING TO THE GROUND .......... ? Running Dogs of UMNO, your day of Judgement will come. May God and the People give you mercy at that time.
"Fell on his own", "Suicide...jump on his own". All injuries and death when you goons are around are all done by the victim themselves. What next, MACC?
Maybe the next one you will say it is HARA KIRI.
Please lah, have some respect for our intelligence. OOPS, since you all don't have it, I don't expect you to know how to respect other's intelligence.
You all at MACC must be damn stupid to think that we will believe what you say.
MACC has become Umno's Gestapo and my tax money is used to fund this depraved and useless commission. I would rather to have no specialized body to fight corruption than a partisan, selectively blind outfit like MACC. Even worse, it is also trying to invent corruption cases against opposition politicians where there are none.
Liu said Wong fell to the ground when he struggled with MACC officers who tried to put him in a car to take him to the MACC office in Putrajaya.
"Wong went to Serdang Hospital at noon for treatment. He is still under examination and observation."
Liu hoped that MACC would give Wong more time to make his statement as he still could not walk and would need one week to recover.
Meanwhile, MACC in a statement clarified that Wong was never pushed by officers as claimed by him.
According to the statement, Wong fell to the ground by himself.
MACC explained that the incident occured at DAP's Sungai Pelek service centre today when seven officers went there to arrest him in connection with an ongoing investigation.
When they arrived at the premises, Wong and his lawyer were already there.
"Our officers served the notice of arrest under Section 53(3) of MACC Act 2009 on Wong.
"The officers also explained the notice to Wong and requested him to sign it but he refused," the statement said.
Wong was escorted to the MACC car which was parked outside the premises.
At this juncture, he refused to get into the car and walked away but the officers tried to stop him and insisted that he got into the car.
"He then fell to the ground by himself at this point," the statement said.
The MACC officers had lodged a counter police report.
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You think those goons will let him walk alone? Like TBH, also fell down on his own. Ha ha ha Hard to believe!
MACC with PDRM assistance, they can just rob away this DAP man lah.
Somemore Serdang Hospital also belongs to UMNO what? I think they will turn off all CCTV by now.
I visited Serdang Hospital before and it also has many storeys. They should try to bring him to the nurse hostel which is even higher. Easy to create commit suicide lor.
Alternatively this time should send him to Putrajaya and make another tragedy of Miss Tan Tu Ya.
now they start again, teoh's case still unsettle they create another case....
MACC....Malaysian Anti Chinese Conspiracy.
Why the needs for warrant of arrest if the MACC wants to questioning him and he is not proven guilty yet by the courts.
Why the needs to send 7 officers to arrest a person if you just wanna take him for questioning. I think MACC procedures is in questions and this shouldnt be the case becos TBH case is still under Inquest.
When this MACC going to use their brains to think and act. What happens to OTK and Tiong (PKFZ) case, shouldn't Tiong and OTK be arrest too?
Do your jobs proper, MACC goons.
" According to the statement, Wong fell to the ground by himself ".
But WHY is it whenever the MACC is around, people start FALLING TO THE GROUND .......... ? Running Dogs of UMNO, your day of Judgement will come. May God and the People give you mercy at that time.
"Fell on his own", "Suicide...jump on his own". All injuries and death when you goons are around are all done by the victim themselves. What next, MACC?
Maybe the next one you will say it is HARA KIRI.
Please lah, have some respect for our intelligence. OOPS, since you all don't have it, I don't expect you to know how to respect other's intelligence.
You all at MACC must be damn stupid to think that we will believe what you say.
MACC has become Umno's Gestapo and my tax money is used to fund this depraved and useless commission. I would rather to have no specialized body to fight corruption than a partisan, selectively blind outfit like MACC. Even worse, it is also trying to invent corruption cases against opposition politicians where there are none.
Web filter debacle has KL red-faced
If there is one incident that demonstrates the power of the Internet in Malaysia, it was the government’s recent red-faced climbdown over plans to filter Web content.
When the news leaked out last week – on a website, of course – that an Internet filter was in the making, an uproar broke out in cyberspace. Malaysians voiced fears that it was intended to curb political dissent as well as its stated aim of pornography.
The traditional print media picked up on it, igniting more outrage and protests. The outcry prompted a public statement by Prime Minister Najib Razak that filters were ineffective.
On Wednesday, the government formally scrapped the plan, even though Information Minister Rais Yatim said it would continue to study the flow of information on child pornography, gambling and terrorism.
It is understood that the filter proposal came about after the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission planned a study on what it called the “positive use of the Internet”.
Homing in on the root of the problem, Pulai MP Nur Jazlan Mohamed noted that while pornography is a serious problem, the scope of the proposed filter was simply too wide. “It’s stupid to block information, we have to find ways to manage it,” he said.
For Malaysians, the Internet is one of the most important sources of alternative political news and has great credibility.
Readership for news websites has grown exponentially. A Nielsen survey last year showed that four out of 10 Malaysians used the Internet for at least an hour a day. Of these, 35 per cent said they read news online.
In a survey last year of people under 35, the Merdeka Centre found that 49 per cent of the 2,500 respondents distrusted mainstream reporting of political and current issues.
The opposition has been a beneficiary of this, making use of the Web’s ability to spread information at top speed to vast numbers of people to win handsomely in the last general election.
The government has largely taken a hands-off policy, except for a few occasions when it apparently tried to block the Malaysia Today website run by Raja Petra Kamaruddin.
It has also used existing laws against him, for blog postings deemed defamatory and seditious.
The absence of direct censorship is largely thanks to a no-censorship guarantee, given when the Multimedia Super Corridor – a special IT economic zone - was launched in the late 1990s.
Rather than resort to censorship - after its election losses last year - the government decided that it would do more to harness the Internet’s power, with Barisan Nasional (BN) politicians setting up blogs, Facebook and Twitter accounts, and even holding live chats.
An Umno leader said the party also set up an IT unit to present its side of the story on blogs when necessary. But a year later, it is apparent that few BN politicians have learnt to use the Internet effectively.
“They see the Internet as a one-way street to make a political statement,” said IT specialist Dinesh Nair.
Umno Youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin is one of the savvier ones.
“For instance, Khairy intersperses his political tweets with trivial comments about his daily activities. And he replies to people. This builds relationships,” said Nair.
It works when it is done well. Political analyst Ong Kian Ming said Khairy has managed to change the opinion of some fence-sitters about him, although not to a large extent yet.
But many BN politicians tend to view blogging with suspicion.
Earlier this week, the Malaysian Chinese Association vice-president Ng Yen Yen said internal threats in the form of comments via blogs are becoming more dangerous than external threats.
Ironically, the BN’s attempt to fall back on the old mode of control via a Net filter was defeated by the netizens whom it sought to rein in.
“It’s a losing proposition. Even if the government does not block political sites, the very notion of such a law provokes a negative reaction,” said Mr Ong.
He noted that the Internet has become such a key component of the political battleground that any party that ignores it is likely to find itself handicapped.
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The standard of Malaysia ministers is appalling. How could an announcement of such important policy be made to the public and it was withdrawn after public outcry ? Wasn't there indepth study before a policy is made or announced ?
Are Malaysia citizens so kiddish to be fooled all the time ?
BEnd only knows about the existence of internet media after the last GE. No wonder broadband penetration is so lagging behind.
Internet is a fair media with no absolute control from any parties, you can write what you want and it is up to the users to interpret and judge the contents. So by no means, excuses like Pakatan won just because of internet mischief be brought up. BEnd has equal opportunity to write/blog what they wanted and express their view. Unfortunately most of the UmNo goons seem to be incapable to write anything intelligently and resulted in them being exposed naked for what they truly are: a racist and a moron. Because of the damages done, they opt to censor the internet instead ..wrong move.. they succeeded in making themselves a bigger fool, a promise breaker and a dinosaur who's habit of belittling peoples' intelligent hard to change. There's a saying, if you don't have anything to say, don't open your big fat mouth. Else they could have a chance for a comeback. They only know how to blame the victims and never resorted to listening to people and fixing their old habits. Because of that, they succeeded in securing a one way ticket to losing in the next GE.
Under directive from Najib, Jabatan Hal Ehwal Khas hire undergraduates by the hundred as their Cyber Troop. They are paid RM3000 (tax payers' money of course) per month to carry out one or more of the followings:
1) Set up black blog sites (something like the t4tbh.blogspot.com) to vilify opposition
2) To pose negative comments in websites like MI, Malaysia Today
3) For the illiterate undergraduates (illiterate undergraduate, what an oxymoron), all they need to do is keep pressing the "-" sign in MI.
4) Collect info, like which new patriotic blogsites have been set up and then report to UMNO. UMNO fears for patriotic blogs.
Azalina Othman Said has previously commanded a cyber-troop, infiltrated into Malaysia Kini to spread racist incitation. At times they disguise themselves as Malay* (*yup! I didn't put it wrongly, they are not Malays, they are UMNtang, ok?) to attack others and sometimes they disguise as Chinese to slader Islam and Malays. Usually they take up fake handles like Michael Wong, Joe Lim, which are generally made up with a christian name and a Chinese surname.
I wonder how these UMNotang feels when they "menghina" Islam, even at the time, they were disguising themselves as Chinese.
Truth will always prevail, this kind of UMNO dirty wiles will fall apart by themselves.
When the news leaked out last week – on a website, of course – that an Internet filter was in the making, an uproar broke out in cyberspace. Malaysians voiced fears that it was intended to curb political dissent as well as its stated aim of pornography.
The traditional print media picked up on it, igniting more outrage and protests. The outcry prompted a public statement by Prime Minister Najib Razak that filters were ineffective.
On Wednesday, the government formally scrapped the plan, even though Information Minister Rais Yatim said it would continue to study the flow of information on child pornography, gambling and terrorism.
It is understood that the filter proposal came about after the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission planned a study on what it called the “positive use of the Internet”.
Homing in on the root of the problem, Pulai MP Nur Jazlan Mohamed noted that while pornography is a serious problem, the scope of the proposed filter was simply too wide. “It’s stupid to block information, we have to find ways to manage it,” he said.
For Malaysians, the Internet is one of the most important sources of alternative political news and has great credibility.
Readership for news websites has grown exponentially. A Nielsen survey last year showed that four out of 10 Malaysians used the Internet for at least an hour a day. Of these, 35 per cent said they read news online.
In a survey last year of people under 35, the Merdeka Centre found that 49 per cent of the 2,500 respondents distrusted mainstream reporting of political and current issues.
The opposition has been a beneficiary of this, making use of the Web’s ability to spread information at top speed to vast numbers of people to win handsomely in the last general election.
The government has largely taken a hands-off policy, except for a few occasions when it apparently tried to block the Malaysia Today website run by Raja Petra Kamaruddin.
It has also used existing laws against him, for blog postings deemed defamatory and seditious.
The absence of direct censorship is largely thanks to a no-censorship guarantee, given when the Multimedia Super Corridor – a special IT economic zone - was launched in the late 1990s.
Rather than resort to censorship - after its election losses last year - the government decided that it would do more to harness the Internet’s power, with Barisan Nasional (BN) politicians setting up blogs, Facebook and Twitter accounts, and even holding live chats.
An Umno leader said the party also set up an IT unit to present its side of the story on blogs when necessary. But a year later, it is apparent that few BN politicians have learnt to use the Internet effectively.
“They see the Internet as a one-way street to make a political statement,” said IT specialist Dinesh Nair.
Umno Youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin is one of the savvier ones.
“For instance, Khairy intersperses his political tweets with trivial comments about his daily activities. And he replies to people. This builds relationships,” said Nair.
It works when it is done well. Political analyst Ong Kian Ming said Khairy has managed to change the opinion of some fence-sitters about him, although not to a large extent yet.
But many BN politicians tend to view blogging with suspicion.
Earlier this week, the Malaysian Chinese Association vice-president Ng Yen Yen said internal threats in the form of comments via blogs are becoming more dangerous than external threats.
Ironically, the BN’s attempt to fall back on the old mode of control via a Net filter was defeated by the netizens whom it sought to rein in.
“It’s a losing proposition. Even if the government does not block political sites, the very notion of such a law provokes a negative reaction,” said Mr Ong.
He noted that the Internet has become such a key component of the political battleground that any party that ignores it is likely to find itself handicapped.
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The standard of Malaysia ministers is appalling. How could an announcement of such important policy be made to the public and it was withdrawn after public outcry ? Wasn't there indepth study before a policy is made or announced ?
Are Malaysia citizens so kiddish to be fooled all the time ?
BEnd only knows about the existence of internet media after the last GE. No wonder broadband penetration is so lagging behind.
Internet is a fair media with no absolute control from any parties, you can write what you want and it is up to the users to interpret and judge the contents. So by no means, excuses like Pakatan won just because of internet mischief be brought up. BEnd has equal opportunity to write/blog what they wanted and express their view. Unfortunately most of the UmNo goons seem to be incapable to write anything intelligently and resulted in them being exposed naked for what they truly are: a racist and a moron. Because of the damages done, they opt to censor the internet instead ..wrong move.. they succeeded in making themselves a bigger fool, a promise breaker and a dinosaur who's habit of belittling peoples' intelligent hard to change. There's a saying, if you don't have anything to say, don't open your big fat mouth. Else they could have a chance for a comeback. They only know how to blame the victims and never resorted to listening to people and fixing their old habits. Because of that, they succeeded in securing a one way ticket to losing in the next GE.
Under directive from Najib, Jabatan Hal Ehwal Khas hire undergraduates by the hundred as their Cyber Troop. They are paid RM3000 (tax payers' money of course) per month to carry out one or more of the followings:
1) Set up black blog sites (something like the t4tbh.blogspot.com) to vilify opposition
2) To pose negative comments in websites like MI, Malaysia Today
3) For the illiterate undergraduates (illiterate undergraduate, what an oxymoron), all they need to do is keep pressing the "-" sign in MI.
4) Collect info, like which new patriotic blogsites have been set up and then report to UMNO. UMNO fears for patriotic blogs.
Azalina Othman Said has previously commanded a cyber-troop, infiltrated into Malaysia Kini to spread racist incitation. At times they disguise themselves as Malay* (*yup! I didn't put it wrongly, they are not Malays, they are UMNtang, ok?) to attack others and sometimes they disguise as Chinese to slader Islam and Malays. Usually they take up fake handles like Michael Wong, Joe Lim, which are generally made up with a christian name and a Chinese surname.
I wonder how these UMNotang feels when they "menghina" Islam, even at the time, they were disguising themselves as Chinese.
Truth will always prevail, this kind of UMNO dirty wiles will fall apart by themselves.
Kit Siang calls MACC ‘Gestapo’, asks for controls
Kit Siang has likened the MACC to the infamous Gestapo used by Adolph Hitler to silence critics and weed out any resistance to Nazi rule in Europe.
The special assistant to Selangor executive councillor Ronnie Liu for the Barisan Nasional-held Sungai Pelek constituency was injured during a scuffle with MACC officers outside his office yesterday.
Lim said the MACC officers who when to meet Wong at his service centre in Sungai Pelek had gone back on their word by trying to arrest him.
An appointment had been made earlier for Wong to meet the MACC as a witness in ongoing investigations into alleged impropriety in state allocations. But five officers turned up at the service centre said he was a suspect and wanted him to follow them to their office in Putrajaya.
“How did he become a suspect when he was previously just a witness and this shows they are not sincere in their investigations,” the Ipoh Timur MP told reporters.
In light of what happened to Teoh Beng Hock who was found dead last month at the MACC office, two lawyers with Wong insisted he lodge a police report at the Sungai Pelek police station before he followed them to Putrajaya and the MACC officers agreed.
However, three unidentified men tried to handcuff and drag Wong to their car as he walked out of his service centre.
There is no question about Wong resisting arrest because the men did not identify themselves, Lim said.
In the struggle, Wong fell to the ground and injured his right leg while struggling with the men.
Lim noted that MACC had broken their promise again and called on MACC advisory panels to rein in the MACC which seem to have even greater powers than the police.
He also pointed out that the MACC seems to be overly focus on Pakatan Rakyat while ignoring the ongoing RM12.5 billion Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) scandal, Datuk Seri Dr Mohd Khir Toyo’s alleged RM24 million mansion and the RM10 million donation received by MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Kiat.
Wong, whose right leg was bandaged and was seen moving with the support of a walker, confirmed he did not know who the three men were and said he has no confidence in the MACC.
“The MACC is not independent and a tool which is being used by the Barisan Nasional to topple the Selangor government.” said Wong, adding he was not even found guilty yet but was treated like a criminal.
Wong's boss Liu took the MACC officers to task for refusing to identify the three men involved in grabbing his assistant.
“I asked several officers to provide us their names but they themselves claim they did not know who they were,” Liu said, adding he did meet the men at the police station later.
Liu added there is no doubt the MACC was being selective in their prosecution.
He claimed no investigations has been done on the previous Barisan lawmakers who had spent RM500,000 in annual allocations, in just two months, prior to the March 8 general elections last year.
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MACC 100% without doubt is UMNO running dog.
PKFZ, Perak 2 frogs, Toyol palace so obvoius also no case, this is really Malaysia Boleh!!!
Yes, MACC = Umno's Gestapo, no doubt about this. Their investigative skill is also zero. Their method of fighting corruption appear to be to beat confessions out of their victims for real or imagined crimes and this is reserved almost exclusively for opposition politicians. They love to do interrogations under the cover of night of course. Disband this Gestapo outfit!
this MACC is a pile of rubbish la.We,the rakyat know that.Never mind,next GE,we put you all into the federal government,then u kick this MACC officers ass once and for all.
"He also pointed out that the MACC seems to be overly focus on Pakatan Rakyat while ignoring the ongoing RM12.5 billion Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) scandal, Datuk Seri Dr Mohd Khir Toyo’s alleged RM24 million mansion and the RM10 million donation received by MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Kiat."
"He claimed no investigations has been done on the previous Barisan lawmakers who had spent RM500,000 in annual allocations, in just two months, prior to the March 8 general elections last year."
MACC whats wrong with you guys...cant you go for bigger cases and build your reputation which is now down the drains?
How come our broadband is slower than narorow band?
How come our broadband is slower than narorow band?
BEFORE you accuse me of losing my memory, let me say that yes I do remember that I wrote Thursday a piece about the government’s “plan” to filter internet content. But since this “filter” issue is still filtering in, so to speak, I think I’ll have another go at it.
Filter in Bahasa Melayu ( or should it be Bahasa Malaysia ? or Bahasa Kebangsaan ? I’m confuse, forgive me). Anyway I’ll start again. Filter is translated in Malay as “tapis”. Hence the Censorship Board, whose job among other things is to cut off “dirty scenes and dialogues,” is, in Malay, “ Lembaga Penapis ( the key word being “tapis”) .
So when minister Rais Yatim used the word ‘filter’, it’s not much of a surprise that most of us see this equation: filter = censor. Prime Minister Najib Razak has denied that the government want to censor the internet, a denial made on the very same day Rais was confirming earlier report quoting sources that the government was looking into the filtering of net content.
But only porno stuff. That’s what he said. Despite that, and Najib’s assurance, the “filter” issue has not gone away. Many feel the filter will come in one way or another and from porno sites the filter will ‘enroach’ into other things. Namely “independent” news portal and socio-political blogs. Mere speculation ? Unfair conclusion? Usual prophets of doom stuff? I don’t know. I do know public concern is real.
But then, usage of the internet in Malaysia is not “really great”. Don’t get me wrong. More and more people are surfing the net now. Most of us are connected. Or that’s what we tell ourselves and our friends. There are WiFi in many places. Even our favourite hangout for the tarik and roti canai. Malaysians young and old with laptops is a common sight. Then there’s the sophisticated mobile phones and black berry and what not. We know of websites, blogs, face book, twitter, you name it we’ve know it.
However, accessing the internet is not as fast as we would want it to be. Heavy traffic we are often told. In fact our broadband is slower than the narrow band in Japan for instance. This despite the trumpeting of our first world facilities.
I’m sure we have lost count of the number of times when we got connected but cannot “masuk.” Reason ? Cannot find server lah, glitch, heavy traffic ( again ?) and all kinds of “hi tech excuses”.
I know all this things happens and we can’t expect a 100 percent perfect system. There are bound to be , glitches. Yes. But our beloved country has always been proud to say we are “up there’. We’ve got MSC, Cyberjaya and all that.
So how come we can’t improve things? And how come other countries do not experience frustrating moments we are facing in front of the computers? And I’m not talking about the US, UK. I’m just looking at our Southeast Asian friends. Not Singapore lah. The island republic is way ahead. I’ll stop praising them before I’m accused of being a Singapore lover and thus a traitor.
Still, ever the loyal Malaysian, I have the confidence that the good people entrusted to shoulder this cyber thing will fix it. Hopefully ASAP.
Last point, I’ll state the obvious. Sorry.When you can’t ‘masuk’ , then you can’t surf, cannot navigate. Or you can access but get to the sites of your choice. Or it will take ages. You get so frustrated you just switch off your computers and walk away. Hey, come to think of it, this can be an effective way of “censoring ”the net. Accusing fingers can’t be pointed at anybody. Blame it on technology. With that in place, who need filters?
BEFORE you accuse me of losing my memory, let me say that yes I do remember that I wrote Thursday a piece about the government’s “plan” to filter internet content. But since this “filter” issue is still filtering in, so to speak, I think I’ll have another go at it.
Filter in Bahasa Melayu ( or should it be Bahasa Malaysia ? or Bahasa Kebangsaan ? I’m confuse, forgive me). Anyway I’ll start again. Filter is translated in Malay as “tapis”. Hence the Censorship Board, whose job among other things is to cut off “dirty scenes and dialogues,” is, in Malay, “ Lembaga Penapis ( the key word being “tapis”) .
So when minister Rais Yatim used the word ‘filter’, it’s not much of a surprise that most of us see this equation: filter = censor. Prime Minister Najib Razak has denied that the government want to censor the internet, a denial made on the very same day Rais was confirming earlier report quoting sources that the government was looking into the filtering of net content.
But only porno stuff. That’s what he said. Despite that, and Najib’s assurance, the “filter” issue has not gone away. Many feel the filter will come in one way or another and from porno sites the filter will ‘enroach’ into other things. Namely “independent” news portal and socio-political blogs. Mere speculation ? Unfair conclusion? Usual prophets of doom stuff? I don’t know. I do know public concern is real.
But then, usage of the internet in Malaysia is not “really great”. Don’t get me wrong. More and more people are surfing the net now. Most of us are connected. Or that’s what we tell ourselves and our friends. There are WiFi in many places. Even our favourite hangout for the tarik and roti canai. Malaysians young and old with laptops is a common sight. Then there’s the sophisticated mobile phones and black berry and what not. We know of websites, blogs, face book, twitter, you name it we’ve know it.
However, accessing the internet is not as fast as we would want it to be. Heavy traffic we are often told. In fact our broadband is slower than the narrow band in Japan for instance. This despite the trumpeting of our first world facilities.
I’m sure we have lost count of the number of times when we got connected but cannot “masuk.” Reason ? Cannot find server lah, glitch, heavy traffic ( again ?) and all kinds of “hi tech excuses”.
I know all this things happens and we can’t expect a 100 percent perfect system. There are bound to be , glitches. Yes. But our beloved country has always been proud to say we are “up there’. We’ve got MSC, Cyberjaya and all that.
So how come we can’t improve things? And how come other countries do not experience frustrating moments we are facing in front of the computers? And I’m not talking about the US, UK. I’m just looking at our Southeast Asian friends. Not Singapore lah. The island republic is way ahead. I’ll stop praising them before I’m accused of being a Singapore lover and thus a traitor.
Still, ever the loyal Malaysian, I have the confidence that the good people entrusted to shoulder this cyber thing will fix it. Hopefully ASAP.
Last point, I’ll state the obvious. Sorry.When you can’t ‘masuk’ , then you can’t surf, cannot navigate. Or you can access but get to the sites of your choice. Or it will take ages. You get so frustrated you just switch off your computers and walk away. Hey, come to think of it, this can be an effective way of “censoring ”the net. Accusing fingers can’t be pointed at anybody. Blame it on technology. With that in place, who need filters?
MACC officers pushed me, says Liu's aide
State executive councillor Ronnie Liu's aide was hurt in a scuffle with Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) officers at the Sungai Pelek DAP service centre yesterday.
Wong Chuan How, 50, claimed he was pushed by MACC officers who wanted to detain him for questioning in connection with its investigation into the misappropriation of constituency allocation.
Wong, who is also a Sepang municipal councillor, was said to be in hiding after a blog alleged he had received 83 contracts amounting to more than RM200,000 in the Sungai Pelek constituency.
Sepang is held by Barisan Nasional's Yap Ee Wah and it is under Liu's supervision on behalf of the Pakatan Rakyat state government.
Liu claimed the officers acted like gangsters and did not introduce themselves when they went to pick up Wong for an interview yesterday morning.
He also accused the MACC of not fulfilling its promise to interview Wong at the service centre.
"They treated Wong like a suspect," Liu alleged, adding that two lawyers, Chua Kee Hin and John Fernandez, were present when the officers turned up at the service centre.
On Monday, MACC officers recorded Wong's statement on the allegation of misappropriation of state funds.
MACC director of investigations Datuk Mohd Shukri Abdull insisted that the scuffle occurred when Wong refused to follow the officers for questioning.
Shukri said the officers read him a warning and asked him to sign it but he refused.
"He wanted to lodge a police report instead," he said.
"We tried to bring him back to our headquarters but he refused to follow. There was a slight scuffle when we tried to put him into a car and he fell."
Shukri said that Wong was allowed to lodge a police report later and he was then sent to the Serdang Hospital for treatment.
"We did go to his office to detain him and we had prepared a written warning that was read out to him before his arrest, which he refused to sign," he said, stressing that the commission had the power to make an arrest.
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MACC officers do NOT ACT like gangsters, they are gangsters and as such under our beloved laws why should they introduce themselves?
Corruption is their middle name.
Gangsterism is their only game.
They are here to protect the interests of UMNO
If murder is necessary, that'e where they'd go!
Yes how convenient. Everyone who is arrested by MACC falls down by themselves or fling themselves off the building. MACC must have some superpower. Yeah pigs can fly.
Ever since Teoh Beng Hock's case all opposition members already have a fixed mindset, that is they believe they will surely die if arrested by MACC. Why, even a witness like Teoh can die what more a suspect. That's why they will fight tooth and nail to prevent being hauled up to their headquarters.
..we had prepared a written warning that was read out to him before his arrest,
What is that warning ? No one can be forced to sign any documents to implicate himself or herself ? Read CPC 114 ?
Wong Chuan How, 50, claimed he was pushed by MACC officers who wanted to detain him for questioning in connection with its investigation into the misappropriation of constituency allocation.
Wong, who is also a Sepang municipal councillor, was said to be in hiding after a blog alleged he had received 83 contracts amounting to more than RM200,000 in the Sungai Pelek constituency.
Sepang is held by Barisan Nasional's Yap Ee Wah and it is under Liu's supervision on behalf of the Pakatan Rakyat state government.
Liu claimed the officers acted like gangsters and did not introduce themselves when they went to pick up Wong for an interview yesterday morning.
He also accused the MACC of not fulfilling its promise to interview Wong at the service centre.
"They treated Wong like a suspect," Liu alleged, adding that two lawyers, Chua Kee Hin and John Fernandez, were present when the officers turned up at the service centre.
On Monday, MACC officers recorded Wong's statement on the allegation of misappropriation of state funds.
MACC director of investigations Datuk Mohd Shukri Abdull insisted that the scuffle occurred when Wong refused to follow the officers for questioning.
Shukri said the officers read him a warning and asked him to sign it but he refused.
"He wanted to lodge a police report instead," he said.
"We tried to bring him back to our headquarters but he refused to follow. There was a slight scuffle when we tried to put him into a car and he fell."
Shukri said that Wong was allowed to lodge a police report later and he was then sent to the Serdang Hospital for treatment.
"We did go to his office to detain him and we had prepared a written warning that was read out to him before his arrest, which he refused to sign," he said, stressing that the commission had the power to make an arrest.
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MACC officers do NOT ACT like gangsters, they are gangsters and as such under our beloved laws why should they introduce themselves?
Corruption is their middle name.
Gangsterism is their only game.
They are here to protect the interests of UMNO
If murder is necessary, that'e where they'd go!
Yes how convenient. Everyone who is arrested by MACC falls down by themselves or fling themselves off the building. MACC must have some superpower. Yeah pigs can fly.
Ever since Teoh Beng Hock's case all opposition members already have a fixed mindset, that is they believe they will surely die if arrested by MACC. Why, even a witness like Teoh can die what more a suspect. That's why they will fight tooth and nail to prevent being hauled up to their headquarters.
..we had prepared a written warning that was read out to him before his arrest,
What is that warning ? No one can be forced to sign any documents to implicate himself or herself ? Read CPC 114 ?
MCA Ong's Leadership is Losing Its Lustre
I was one of those who were pleased when Ong Tee Keat decided to contest for the MCA presidency. I was silently hopeful that Ong's strong personal principles, his frankness, his no nonsense politics and his multiracial vision would be able to catalyze a significant change in the race-based BN coalition.
If there was any leader who could tell UMNO to end its extreme racial politics, it would be Ong Tee Keat. I told him that these qualities were the main reason he was spared the political tsunami and voted back into parliament by the voters.
It is time for Ong to produce the same kind of attributes to restore the lustre of his leadership. It does not matter if he could muster enough support within the party to continue to ward off his deputy, Chua Soi Lek. But it was obvious that Ong was too preoccupied with Chua to the point that it has made the latter such an important nemesis.
Chua's strength is a reflection of Ong's insecurity and weakness. On paper, there is only a remote chance for Chua to challenge the leadership of Ong. UMNO, the party who is trying to portray itself as a moral guardian, will find it hard to accept Chua's leadership of MCA or as a cabinet colleague.
Chua's sex scandal would have made Anwar's case looked pale in comparison. The latter was alleged to have conducted unnatural sex but there was no video evidence, unlike Chua's.
Unfortunately, Ong had wasted too much of his valuable time trying to contain and fight Chua. Ong should seriously try to measure his achievement in reforming his party. Has his leadership contributed to MCA's political revival?
The latest allegations, the RM10 million cash 'donation' and the use of KD's company aircrafts, made by Kuala Dimensi and Tiong against Ong would have a significant political impact on him. Ong had admitted to the use of the chartered flights but not the donation.
According to a proper procedure, he cannot ask his ministry to pay for these flights. He was not permitted to spend beyond a certain budgetary limit. So, what is going to happen to Ong? How will Najib react?
Ong should do two things quickly. First, he needs to spend sometime doing some self-introspection on his own performance. Next, he should take a serious look at the people around him. He should use the right people, listen to the right advice and pick the right strategy.
Otherwise, the once respected political maverick will lose his lustre quicker than he could ever imagine. There is a thin line which separates bluntness and arrogance.
Ong's reaction to the allegations made by Tiong will determine if he survives politically.
by Khoo Kay Peng
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Maybe there's no love lost between Ong and Chua. So what if Ong is lackluster? Chua ha still got his lustwhat. Follow Nah!Cheap and go 1Malaysian and 2Mongolian
OTK's integrity and credibility have already been somewhat dented by the recent RM10 million and jetflight services scandal.
He will have to face a barrage of questions. He has to mobilize his internal support from his MCA backbenchers to see through this crisis.
Don't forget he is dealing with a Bintulu Foochow kingpin who has the backing of an UMNO partner in business
Ai yah, the reason why any1 join MCA or for that matter any Bee End component party is to get rich, rich, rich. If that is not the reason but to ensure justice & fight for the rights of the rakyat then they would have joined PR. PR reps like LGE flies on economy class not private jets sponsored by rich tycoons....SEE the difference. Anyway reporters don't even know who PR reps are?? Karpal Singh??? I dunno he's a politician, Is he??
any body who supports umno led bn has nothing else insight apart from filling their own pockets with the rakyat hard earned cash.thats about all there is.so who ever said they are championing the rights of the rakyat,specifically their own race is only talking cock as long as they support umno led bn!
When you vote MCA, you voted UM-NO. When you voted UM-No, you created MACC & PDRM. These are called BARISAN NAJIS...you can deny it.
Please think of Kugan, C4 Altan, Teoh, ISA detainees etc...do you still want MCA? They have been licking Um-Noputras axsses and the main cause of all the ills in our country., not just making a fool of the Chinese community.
OTK 10m/flys without paying, Chua's a porno star etc. The whole bunch is like a can of worms... Scandals after scandals, never ends...To hell with MCA.
What lustre are we talking about in the first place? Lustre from a party which can’t stand and survives on its own? A party that needs to wag its tail even while being slap or kick it?
OKT will be the fall guy for a right price, they are just trying to scale down the damage which in actual fact run into billions and not just one billion with side show like 100 million graft or donation.
The actual winners will be the true crooks which will walk away scoot free with the billions of the RAKYAT money leaving the fall guy with loose change. The real looser are the RAKYAT, the ANAK MALAYSIA.
Be careful with your ‘large donation’
The allegation by Bintulu MP Tiong King Sing that he gave a RM10 million “loan” to MCA chief Ong Tee Keat raised many eyebrows. And Tee Keat has denied the huge ‘loan’ was ever made.
Yesterday, Ong Tee Keat filed a police report against Tiong. He also demanded an apology from Tiong within seven days for his public statement that he (Ong) took a RM10 million “loan” from him.
ong-tee-keat-tiong-king-sing.jpgTee Keat described the allegations made by Tiong, as "smear tactics and character assassination" against him. According to him, MCA is not in dire need of such monetary assistance from any party.
Meanwhile, Tiong has stated that he will not apologise, and according to China Press which interviewed Tiong, he has also refused to retract his statement on Ong.
Tiong, who is also the Barisan Nasional (BN) Backbenchers’ Club chairperson, said the RM10 million was paid in cash in three instalments.
Malaysian Mirror in an attempt to get some reactions to the unfolding drama, talked to three well-known NGO presidents on the matter.
Any donation must be recorded
Transparency International’s president Paul Low said tragunath kesavan.jpghat “there was no restriction if an individual wants to contribute to a party’s cause. In this matter, technically the contribution does not have anything to do with the PKFZ issues.
“The RM10 million issue is between Tiong and Ong. However, the PKFZ scandal must be solved,” Low said.
Bar Council president, Ragunath Kesavan, an ardent reader of Malaysian Mirror said: “The practice of giving gift or donation amounting to millions must be investigated, since there might be a tendency to corruption.
“Any donation must be recorded and acknowledged, especially if the amount is large like RM10 million,” he added.
Zaid Kamaruddin, the president of Jamaah Islah Malaysia (JIM) said: “It is technically correct for Ong to receive the donation, but then why must Tiong be contributing to MCA’s coffer if he does not have any reason?”
Since Ong has denied receiving the 'donation', the onus is on Tiong to prove that he had indeed 'donated' the RM10 million.
To sum it up, all of them seems to agree that even though such things can be done legally, the timing of the event can be such that to the public, all is not well.
That Tiong came up with the scathing allegation on the transport minister a day after the startling revelations were revealed on the PKFZ scandal seemed to indicate an act of vengeance.
Some political animals carry with them this theory in their political guidebook, i.e. "If I were to go down, I will make sure you go down with me".
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Some political animals carry with them this theory in their political guidebook, i.e. "If I were to go down, I will make sure you go down with me".
I hope and pray that both of them will go down together.
The Bintulu Foochow BN Backbencher Chairman is trying to cover his ground over the PKFZ scandal by throwing the spanner - just typical of political animals who are prepare to bring everybody down when the state of affairs is running against them.
It is a dangerous and risky move that will capture the full glare of publicity.
DPM has already chipped in by telling them to resolve this matter within the 4 walls of BN.
But DPM's future is also not so bright now that he will earn the wrath of Muslim brethens who chastise personal attacks to this extreme level of calling DSAI a traitor to the Malays.
MACC and PDRM, the lap dogs of AMENO / BN would not be conducting any investigation on this allegation of massive corruption, because just like the case of Khir Toyol and other AMENO / BN warlords, it is considered as AMENO / BN warlords sanctioned corruption. Any other corruption be it minor or even alleged corrutption by the rakyat, by lesser or petty officials, or by the oppostion party will be thoroughly investigated becuase in Malaysia only AMENO / BN warlords sanctioned and mutually agreed corruption and abuse of power is allowed.
Malaysia can be used a fine example by the western countries on how to conduct selective persecution. In fact USA learnt from Malaysia on how to conduct selective persecution of the so called alleged but not proven in court muslim terrorists in Guantanomo Bay. This fact was infact verified and confirmed by the KDN webstite. Malaysia Boleh !Malaysia Gilang ! Malaysia Temberang !
No matter how one looks at it, it's corruption of the highest order. And we're not talking about ikan bilis here. If Ong did indeed take the money and it had not been reported to is party as a donation, angpow or whatever they he wants to call it, it's corruption pure and simple. And it's wrong. And both Tiong and Ong must face the consequences. The whole thing now surface because Tiong knows that he's caught with his pants down. I say, serve them right. One way for Najib to lessen the impact of this is to ask Tiong and Ong to make a trip to Taiwan and sort out their problem there before they are allowed to come back. They can use the excuse thay they are going there to study adavance agriculture; like how money can grow on trees. Sort of a follow-up to Tiong's previous trip. I'm sure the rakyat will fall for it.
14 August 2009
Signs point to suicide, Teoh inquest told
A government pathologist today told the coroner's court that 30-year-old father-to-be Teoh Beng Hock, who was scheduled to marry his sweetheart the day he was found dead, had most likely committed suicide by jumping out of a window from the 14th floor of the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) office here.
Dr Khairul Aznam Ibrahim, a senior medical forensic expert at Hospital Tengku Ampuan Rahimah (HTAR) in Klang who had carried out the autopsy on Teoh, had been asked to carefully consider the many possible causes of a death from a fall by the lead lawyer from the Attorney General's Chambers, Tan Hock Chuan, before giving his expert opinion.
Earlier, he had given the three most common causes as:
1. homicide: where the victim gets thrown or pushed out of a window from a high place;
2. accidental death: where the victim slips and accidentally plunges down while standing near an open window; and
3. suicide.
Dr Khairul suggested that Teoh committed suicide.
But in Teoh's case, Dr Khairul said the existing evidence struck out the first theory as there were no clear signs pointing to a struggle before the death, based on the injuries found on the DAP political secretary's body and from the lack of evidence at the window area.
He did not find traces of bloodstains, glass shards or items scattered at the window to point to a struggle.
He especially noted that a pen, which was found in Teoh's shirt when he fell to the ground, would most likely have fallen out if there was a struggle beforehand.
Dr Khairul also dismissed the theory of death by an accidental fall. He explained that a conscious person was unlikely to have slipped and plunged to death while opening the window, even in a sleepy state, because the floor below the window was carpeted.
“There were no signs the deceased suffocated or was unconscious,” the pathologist told the court after Tan quizzed Dr Khairul on whether he found any injuries or signs of injuries that showed Teoh “suffocated”.
He added that the injuries sustained would be different, too. In Teoh’s case, he said the injuries showed he landed on his feet first, rather than on his head or body.
“In my opinion, the deceased jumped,” he said, after Tan prompted him to give his expert conclusion on the most likely cause of death.
But lawyer Gobind Singh Deo, representing the Teoh family, immediately moved in to punch holes in Dr Khairul's theory that Teoh’s death was a suicide when he took over from Tan.
Gobind: In this case, you said the fall made an impact on the right foot. Now, is that common for a person falling from a high place to land on his feet?
Dr Khairul: I don't know.
The pathologist's reply triggered an outburst from the lawyer, well-known for his fiery temper.
Pushing on, Gobind asked Dr Khairul to demonstrate how Teoh would have likely climbed out of the window to commit suicide.
The medical forensic expert stood up and performed the action and then moved both his hands behind to his back, mimicking gripping the top edge of the window.
Gobind referred him to his action and asked if he had inspected the window for any prints, whether from the shoes or from the hands, based on what he had just shown the court.
Dr Khairul said he had not. He had done a visual check but had not found any signs of hand prints or shoe prints around the 14th-floor window area.
This sent Gobind into another fit.
“You come to this court and tell us your theories you cannot prove. In fact, you didn't do the basic tests to support, isn't it?
“Actually sir, there were no foot prints, no hand prints because forensics told us so. That means your theory is demolished. It's not a case where he jumped!” the lawyer directed loudly at a visibly tense Dr Khairul, who was later seen wiping his face and neck with a damp handkerchief.
Dr Khairul had agreed that there would have been marks near the window if Teoh had stood there to jump, as he demonstrated earlier, but maintained he found no such marks.
Magistrate Azmil Muntapha Abas, who is acting as coroner, agreed to stop today's inquest at this point and continue on Monday morning.
The lawyers said they had many questions to ask Dr Khairul and wanted him to return with photographs detailing the injuries sustained by Teoh, which he said he had snapped while performing the autopsy.
Gobind had earlier asked if the pathologist had measured the size of Teoh's feet to find out why only one shoe had fallen off in the fall.
Dr Khairul said he did not. He said there was no need to check if the shoe was too loose for Teoh's foot because he theorised that the shoe had come off air during the fall.
Under Gobind's intense interrogation, he admitted that there was a “possibility that the shoe was thrown off the building”, which points to the possibility of homicide.
But Dr Khairul said he had not dusted the shoe for fingerprints.
Gobind pushed on and asked if measurements were taken to find out the height of the plunge, from the 14th floor to the 5th-floor overhang where Teoh was found.
Dr Khairul said he had not because he did not have a tape measure on him at that time, prompting an outburst from the fiery lawyer over the pathologist's handling of the crime scene investigation.
Earlier too, the pathologist said he believed the DNA of at least two unknown men, which had been found on Teoh's belt and blazer and marked by government chemist Dr Seah Lay Hong, resulted from “contamination” on the autopsy table at the Klang hospital while his clothes were being removed.
Questioned further by Tan, Dr Khairul revealed that the autopsy table where Teoh was placed had not been sterilised or disinfected even though there were two other autopsies carried out on July 17, before he performed the post-mortem on Teoh.
“It was cleaned but using normal water,” he told the inquest.
Tan: Was there a possibility of contamination when the body was placed on the autopsy table clothed?
Dr Khairul: The possibility when he was placed is unlikely. But it may have been during the process his clothes were removed.
Teoh was found dead on July 16 on the 5th-floor landing at Plaza Masalam here after he was taken in for questioning the day before by the MACC investigating claims Selangor DAP executive councillors had misused state funds.
A former reporter, he was apppinted political secretary to assemblyman Ean Yong Hian Wah who won the Seri Kembangan state seat in the general election last year.
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Totally bullshit........they want to cover up the incident....
Aiya... just close the curtains. Reading all these loads of bullshit is crap. Yalar... who is Teoh Beng Hock? OTK 10 mil... tak ape. Toyol's house tak ape.
Die another person only mah... who cares wor. Msia biggest joke of 2009.... Teoh Beng Hock committed suicide because he can't handle the thought of getting married, can't handle a new addition to the family. Commit Suicide is the easiest way to get out of all mental torture. And all this makes sense because he was suppose to register for marriage.
Aiya...if wanna bullshit... average IQ rakyat also know lar. If got no brains, just shut up.
Suicide because "there were no clear signs pointing to a struggle before the death". Doesn't that all seem so simple? What if someone points a gun at your head and tells you to climb up the window? What kind of struggle would there be if you did not think that person would push you over? But then, he did. Now, there would then be no signs of a struggle, so do we then conclude that you committed suicide? Hmmm, it all sounds too simple!
Earlier PDRM claimed to the public say the investigation is about complete/done, way before TBH families lawyers and doctors prompted to discover the scene. Now government official pushes back and says TBH is suicide. People will only believes that PDRM has eliminated the proves where they deemed what was almost "COMPLETE" !!!!!
Guys, right or not?
Well doc, since you are supposed to be part of the criminologist team, why did you reach that conclusion, when the man was about to get married the next day? Even with the worst case of cold feet, men don't commit suicide. Did you, at arriving at your theory, base it also on Teoh's mental state etc, for eg if he was suffering from depression? He actually didn't have any of these diseases right?
In other words, what was the motive for suicide? As part of the investigative team, why didn't you try to ascertain that aspect before arriving at any conclusion?
This is the problem when brother are investigating a brother. Conflicts. Doubtful, take things for granted even for minor details which maybe the actual lead. Noticed that the chemist and pathology are doing job half heartedly too, which their professionalism are questionables.
Do they take measurement and calculate, do they use latest technology of tracing blood stain, do they do simulation, how about the belt marks, does it caused by falls too. And too many issues of tampering evidents taken place. For information, tampering or trying clear/hide evident in foreign country is a serious offence.
mother of lies....
if he had committed suicide, the window area would be full of teoh fingers' print....do you think a man going to kill himself will clean up the prints like criminals?
this goes to show how stupid the official arguement, shames us malaysian in the eyes of the world.
"The pathologist also said the DNA of unknown males was found on Teoh's belt and blazer, and this could have come from contamination on the autopsy table while his clothes were being removed."
Didn't the same happened in OJ Simpson case - contamination of evidence? And that resulted in him walking away scot free?
Are they trying to do the same here?
That's very unprofessional and unethical of the pathologist. It is his duty to establish the DNA of those at the autopsy table. Anything less is SHODDY and professionally unethical. It further suggests he is incapable of making a professional judgement!
This Doctor is another production from Malaysia university.. just like UTUSAN Reporter.. he is clueless.
MACC - same continue to sit and pick small case and them pick the minister and let them go without any evidence..
DPM - moron
PM - Same Moron
Health Minister - only know how to count
Transport Minister - surrounded by enemy with 10 millions in pocket
Home Minister - work on computer game.. data game
Rais .. makan nasi and still try to figure put H1N1 or Sakit Babi
I wonder how
Dr Khairul Aznam Ibrahim, a senior medical forensic expert at Hospital Tengku Ampuan Rahimah (HTAR) in Klang who had carried out the autopsy on Teoh, had been asked to carefully consider the many possible causes of a death from a fall by the lead lawyer from the Attorney General's Chambers, Tan Hock Chuan, before giving his expert opinion.
Earlier, he had given the three most common causes as:
1. homicide: where the victim gets thrown or pushed out of a window from a high place;
2. accidental death: where the victim slips and accidentally plunges down while standing near an open window; and
3. suicide.
Dr Khairul suggested that Teoh committed suicide.
But in Teoh's case, Dr Khairul said the existing evidence struck out the first theory as there were no clear signs pointing to a struggle before the death, based on the injuries found on the DAP political secretary's body and from the lack of evidence at the window area.
He did not find traces of bloodstains, glass shards or items scattered at the window to point to a struggle.
He especially noted that a pen, which was found in Teoh's shirt when he fell to the ground, would most likely have fallen out if there was a struggle beforehand.
Dr Khairul also dismissed the theory of death by an accidental fall. He explained that a conscious person was unlikely to have slipped and plunged to death while opening the window, even in a sleepy state, because the floor below the window was carpeted.
“There were no signs the deceased suffocated or was unconscious,” the pathologist told the court after Tan quizzed Dr Khairul on whether he found any injuries or signs of injuries that showed Teoh “suffocated”.
He added that the injuries sustained would be different, too. In Teoh’s case, he said the injuries showed he landed on his feet first, rather than on his head or body.
“In my opinion, the deceased jumped,” he said, after Tan prompted him to give his expert conclusion on the most likely cause of death.
But lawyer Gobind Singh Deo, representing the Teoh family, immediately moved in to punch holes in Dr Khairul's theory that Teoh’s death was a suicide when he took over from Tan.
Gobind: In this case, you said the fall made an impact on the right foot. Now, is that common for a person falling from a high place to land on his feet?
Dr Khairul: I don't know.
The pathologist's reply triggered an outburst from the lawyer, well-known for his fiery temper.
Pushing on, Gobind asked Dr Khairul to demonstrate how Teoh would have likely climbed out of the window to commit suicide.
The medical forensic expert stood up and performed the action and then moved both his hands behind to his back, mimicking gripping the top edge of the window.
Gobind referred him to his action and asked if he had inspected the window for any prints, whether from the shoes or from the hands, based on what he had just shown the court.
Dr Khairul said he had not. He had done a visual check but had not found any signs of hand prints or shoe prints around the 14th-floor window area.
This sent Gobind into another fit.
“You come to this court and tell us your theories you cannot prove. In fact, you didn't do the basic tests to support, isn't it?
“Actually sir, there were no foot prints, no hand prints because forensics told us so. That means your theory is demolished. It's not a case where he jumped!” the lawyer directed loudly at a visibly tense Dr Khairul, who was later seen wiping his face and neck with a damp handkerchief.
Dr Khairul had agreed that there would have been marks near the window if Teoh had stood there to jump, as he demonstrated earlier, but maintained he found no such marks.
Magistrate Azmil Muntapha Abas, who is acting as coroner, agreed to stop today's inquest at this point and continue on Monday morning.
The lawyers said they had many questions to ask Dr Khairul and wanted him to return with photographs detailing the injuries sustained by Teoh, which he said he had snapped while performing the autopsy.
Gobind had earlier asked if the pathologist had measured the size of Teoh's feet to find out why only one shoe had fallen off in the fall.
Dr Khairul said he did not. He said there was no need to check if the shoe was too loose for Teoh's foot because he theorised that the shoe had come off air during the fall.
Under Gobind's intense interrogation, he admitted that there was a “possibility that the shoe was thrown off the building”, which points to the possibility of homicide.
But Dr Khairul said he had not dusted the shoe for fingerprints.
Gobind pushed on and asked if measurements were taken to find out the height of the plunge, from the 14th floor to the 5th-floor overhang where Teoh was found.
Dr Khairul said he had not because he did not have a tape measure on him at that time, prompting an outburst from the fiery lawyer over the pathologist's handling of the crime scene investigation.
Earlier too, the pathologist said he believed the DNA of at least two unknown men, which had been found on Teoh's belt and blazer and marked by government chemist Dr Seah Lay Hong, resulted from “contamination” on the autopsy table at the Klang hospital while his clothes were being removed.
Questioned further by Tan, Dr Khairul revealed that the autopsy table where Teoh was placed had not been sterilised or disinfected even though there were two other autopsies carried out on July 17, before he performed the post-mortem on Teoh.
“It was cleaned but using normal water,” he told the inquest.
Tan: Was there a possibility of contamination when the body was placed on the autopsy table clothed?
Dr Khairul: The possibility when he was placed is unlikely. But it may have been during the process his clothes were removed.
Teoh was found dead on July 16 on the 5th-floor landing at Plaza Masalam here after he was taken in for questioning the day before by the MACC investigating claims Selangor DAP executive councillors had misused state funds.
A former reporter, he was apppinted political secretary to assemblyman Ean Yong Hian Wah who won the Seri Kembangan state seat in the general election last year.
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Totally bullshit........they want to cover up the incident....
Aiya... just close the curtains. Reading all these loads of bullshit is crap. Yalar... who is Teoh Beng Hock? OTK 10 mil... tak ape. Toyol's house tak ape.
Die another person only mah... who cares wor. Msia biggest joke of 2009.... Teoh Beng Hock committed suicide because he can't handle the thought of getting married, can't handle a new addition to the family. Commit Suicide is the easiest way to get out of all mental torture. And all this makes sense because he was suppose to register for marriage.
Aiya...if wanna bullshit... average IQ rakyat also know lar. If got no brains, just shut up.
Suicide because "there were no clear signs pointing to a struggle before the death". Doesn't that all seem so simple? What if someone points a gun at your head and tells you to climb up the window? What kind of struggle would there be if you did not think that person would push you over? But then, he did. Now, there would then be no signs of a struggle, so do we then conclude that you committed suicide? Hmmm, it all sounds too simple!
Earlier PDRM claimed to the public say the investigation is about complete/done, way before TBH families lawyers and doctors prompted to discover the scene. Now government official pushes back and says TBH is suicide. People will only believes that PDRM has eliminated the proves where they deemed what was almost "COMPLETE" !!!!!
Guys, right or not?
Well doc, since you are supposed to be part of the criminologist team, why did you reach that conclusion, when the man was about to get married the next day? Even with the worst case of cold feet, men don't commit suicide. Did you, at arriving at your theory, base it also on Teoh's mental state etc, for eg if he was suffering from depression? He actually didn't have any of these diseases right?
In other words, what was the motive for suicide? As part of the investigative team, why didn't you try to ascertain that aspect before arriving at any conclusion?
This is the problem when brother are investigating a brother. Conflicts. Doubtful, take things for granted even for minor details which maybe the actual lead. Noticed that the chemist and pathology are doing job half heartedly too, which their professionalism are questionables.
Do they take measurement and calculate, do they use latest technology of tracing blood stain, do they do simulation, how about the belt marks, does it caused by falls too. And too many issues of tampering evidents taken place. For information, tampering or trying clear/hide evident in foreign country is a serious offence.
mother of lies....
if he had committed suicide, the window area would be full of teoh fingers' print....do you think a man going to kill himself will clean up the prints like criminals?
this goes to show how stupid the official arguement, shames us malaysian in the eyes of the world.
"The pathologist also said the DNA of unknown males was found on Teoh's belt and blazer, and this could have come from contamination on the autopsy table while his clothes were being removed."
Didn't the same happened in OJ Simpson case - contamination of evidence? And that resulted in him walking away scot free?
Are they trying to do the same here?
That's very unprofessional and unethical of the pathologist. It is his duty to establish the DNA of those at the autopsy table. Anything less is SHODDY and professionally unethical. It further suggests he is incapable of making a professional judgement!
This Doctor is another production from Malaysia university.. just like UTUSAN Reporter.. he is clueless.
MACC - same continue to sit and pick small case and them pick the minister and let them go without any evidence..
DPM - moron
PM - Same Moron
Health Minister - only know how to count
Transport Minister - surrounded by enemy with 10 millions in pocket
Home Minister - work on computer game.. data game
Rais .. makan nasi and still try to figure put H1N1 or Sakit Babi
I wonder how
Dr M says Nik Aziz is making excuses for DAP
Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad criticised PAS spiritual advisor Datuk Nik Aziz Nik Mat today for defending DAP against what he says are insults to Muslims.
The former prime minister lashed out at the PAS man's take on criticisms levelled at DAP for allegedly insulting Muslims, stating that what it basically means is that non-Muslims are allowed to insult Muslims while Muslims cannot defend themselves.
“If we want to make friends with certain people, we need an excuse,” said Dr Mahathir.
Nik Aziz had come under fire recently, especially from Umno, for refuting claims that DAP was insulting Islam.
According to Nik Aziz, DAP was not an Islamic party and would have a limited understanding of the religion as a whole.
The Kelantan mentri besar also affirmed the Islamic party’s stand by stating that PAS was taking a better approach to explain Islam so that DAP would understand the religion better.
“We will do this through forums, talks and discussions,” Nik Aziz had said.
Dr Mahathir’s opinions echo the UMNO position, with similar allegations directed towards PAS by Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, who had pointed out that “if Nik Aziz’s edict is to be followed, then Malaysia would be ruined.”
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Mahathir and Muhyiddin should know that Malaysia is failing now because of their "huge" contributions. Since we've been using this failed formula for 50 years, why shouldn't we change our methods? After decades of Mahathir and a potential 3 more years with Muhyiddin and Najib, I don't think we have anything to lose by giving Pakatan Raykat a decent chance.
educate rather than confront. datuk nik aziz is taking the right approach. this is the way to learn.
DPM as education minister should realize this even if Tun has forgotten.
The former prime minister lashed out at the PAS man's take on criticisms levelled at DAP for allegedly insulting Muslims, stating that what it basically means is that non-Muslims are allowed to insult Muslims while Muslims cannot defend themselves.
“If we want to make friends with certain people, we need an excuse,” said Dr Mahathir.
Nik Aziz had come under fire recently, especially from Umno, for refuting claims that DAP was insulting Islam.
According to Nik Aziz, DAP was not an Islamic party and would have a limited understanding of the religion as a whole.
The Kelantan mentri besar also affirmed the Islamic party’s stand by stating that PAS was taking a better approach to explain Islam so that DAP would understand the religion better.
“We will do this through forums, talks and discussions,” Nik Aziz had said.
Dr Mahathir’s opinions echo the UMNO position, with similar allegations directed towards PAS by Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, who had pointed out that “if Nik Aziz’s edict is to be followed, then Malaysia would be ruined.”
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Mahathir and Muhyiddin should know that Malaysia is failing now because of their "huge" contributions. Since we've been using this failed formula for 50 years, why shouldn't we change our methods? After decades of Mahathir and a potential 3 more years with Muhyiddin and Najib, I don't think we have anything to lose by giving Pakatan Raykat a decent chance.
educate rather than confront. datuk nik aziz is taking the right approach. this is the way to learn.
DPM as education minister should realize this even if Tun has forgotten.
DAP wants to sue media over Islamic issue
The DAP is suing the media over alleged libellous reports on statements on Islam purportedly made by certain DAP leaders which have caused tension among the people.
Its secretary-general Lim Guan Eng said legal action would be taken against several media companies over the reports, particularly Utusan Malaysia.
"I have asked the DAP leaders concerned to take immediate action against the media responsible.
"The media claimed that we have insulted Islam, but the party leaders have never ridiculed any religion, including Islam," he told a press conference, here, today.
Lim, who is also Penang Chief Minister, said the DAP respected all religions in the country and hoped the issue would not be prolonged.
"We don't want to prolong the issue, lest we get more defamatory statements against the party. If that happens, we will meet in court," he said without specifying the number of lawsuits to be filed by the party.
Lim said the party was not afraid of police investigation into the matter as they believed they were on the side of truth.
"What do we have to worry about? We did not issue statements insulting any religion. The police can investigate us," he said.
Meanwhile, he said, the state government had managed to reduce the cost of managing solid waste by about RM33 million for the next three years.
He said the large amount of savings was because they had set a new rate for the contractor involved. - Bernama
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Utusan has UMNO backing la, sue also will not win as our judiciary system also belongs to UMNO.
How to win over them?
Only to vote UMNO out come GE13, then we will send Utusan to toilet as toilet paper.
If I am the buyer and the supplier gives me crap products, I will cease buying from the crap vendor. The crap must stop. If you are the CM and you are given crap everyday, stop all dealings with the crap. Don't invite them for anything, don't use services that advertise with the crap, no crap comes into your door, and everyone is required to leave their crap outside!
Its secretary-general Lim Guan Eng said legal action would be taken against several media companies over the reports, particularly Utusan Malaysia.
"I have asked the DAP leaders concerned to take immediate action against the media responsible.
"The media claimed that we have insulted Islam, but the party leaders have never ridiculed any religion, including Islam," he told a press conference, here, today.
Lim, who is also Penang Chief Minister, said the DAP respected all religions in the country and hoped the issue would not be prolonged.
"We don't want to prolong the issue, lest we get more defamatory statements against the party. If that happens, we will meet in court," he said without specifying the number of lawsuits to be filed by the party.
Lim said the party was not afraid of police investigation into the matter as they believed they were on the side of truth.
"What do we have to worry about? We did not issue statements insulting any religion. The police can investigate us," he said.
Meanwhile, he said, the state government had managed to reduce the cost of managing solid waste by about RM33 million for the next three years.
He said the large amount of savings was because they had set a new rate for the contractor involved. - Bernama
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Utusan has UMNO backing la, sue also will not win as our judiciary system also belongs to UMNO.
How to win over them?
Only to vote UMNO out come GE13, then we will send Utusan to toilet as toilet paper.
If I am the buyer and the supplier gives me crap products, I will cease buying from the crap vendor. The crap must stop. If you are the CM and you are given crap everyday, stop all dealings with the crap. Don't invite them for anything, don't use services that advertise with the crap, no crap comes into your door, and everyone is required to leave their crap outside!
MACC arrests Ronnie Liu’s aide
A special assistant to Ronnie Liu was detained by the Malaysian Anti Corruption Commission (MACC) this morning for alleged misappropriation of funds allocated for the Selangor exco's constituency.
Liu, speaking to The Malaysian Insider, said he was outraged by the arrest, claiming that the MACC had informed him that his aide, Wong Chuan How, was only to be questioned as a witness and not a suspect.
The graft busters had been scheduled to question Wong at the Sungai Pelek service centre this morning but the special assistant was told that he was a suspect instead and was to be escorted back to the MACC headquarters in Putrajaya.
"First the MACC said they only wanted to question him as a witness, now they're saying he's a suspect and want to detain him and question him in Putrajaya. This is wrong," he said.
Wong then refused to go with MACC officers and insisted on lodging a police report, claiming the attempt to detain him was illegal. This led to a scuffle between him and the MACC officers.
Liu said his lawyers have already been instructed to go to the Sungai Pelek police station to try and resolve the matter.
According to Liu, Wong injured his leg during thescuffle and will be escorted by the police to the Serdang hospital where they are trying to get him hospitalised in an attempt to avoid MACC detention.
Wong had lodged a police report against MACC for allegedly assaulting him.
The arrest, said Liu, was none other than part of an ongoing attempt by the Barisan Nasional-led federal government to weaken the Selangor Pakatan Rakyat government through systematic harassment
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After the death of Teoh Beng Hock, bn are showing no remorse for the evil deeds they have done, and are still continuing to harass witnesses and fabricate evidence. Pakatan between have their people camp outside MACC HQ in case MACC decide to throw Wong out from the building.
Be careful that this will not be a second case of sudden death by MACC.
Mr Wong should have a full medical check-up with photographs taken before he goes to the MACC office just in case he ends up with mysterious injuries. The S.gor govt should also ensure regular access to Mr Wong just to see that he is okay even if they are not allowed to talk to him.
And so the deadline to wrest Selangor is still in place and the MACC is back in business as stooge for BN. First say witness but changed to suspect because a witness has rights not to follow MACC but suspect arrested has to follow. For some reason MACC strongly desires that Wong be brought into custody so that they can "investigate" him. Hope he wont end up like TBH. How can the MACC still proceed when TBH's death still unresolved.
Lawan tetap lawan. Dont go down without a fight.
I think that the stimulus package by Najib for selangor needs to be disbursed but how to disburse to selangor when pakatan stands to gain. Hence the hurry.
Why no police arrest on Ahmad Saad's son for possessing the child pornographic material thus far?...MAS inaction is the laughing stock in international aviation community...
‘Mr Correct, Correct, Correct’ is back
Two years ago, Malaysians were somewhat entertained to the Lingam tape affair which produced the popular catch-phrase ‘correct, correct, correct’.
Although the video tape, showing prominent lawyer VK Lingam on the phone with a sitting Chief Justice then, became a serious controversy, it nevertheless was value for entertainment too. ‘Correct, correct, correct’, one of Lingam’s habitual expressions, even became a popular mobile ring tone.
The controversy even catapulted the unknown maker of the video, Loh Gwo-Burne, into an overnight sensation when he won the Kelana Jaya parliamentary seat in the March 2008 general election.
Now, ‘Mr Correct, Correct, Correct’ is back in the news. The only difference is that there will be nothing comedic this time.
The Bar Council wants to haul him up for disciplinary charges.
Disciplinary action from the Bar
Malaysiakini quoted Bar Council secretary George Varughese as saying that the hearing will be before the Advocates & Solicitors Disciplinary Board.
"The hearing is still at the planning stages and will be convened soon," he said.
The Advocates & Solicitors Disciplinary Board has binding powers to regulate the conduct of legal professionals. According to Section 93 of the Act, it can "strike off the roll and suspend" those found guilty of misconduct.
The disciplinary hearing is the initial action against Lingam when he was caught in a video recording discussing the appointment of judges over the phone.
According to the report, Varughese also confirmed that some of the witnesses who testified during last year's Royal Commission of Inquiry inquiry have been contacted to testify in the disciplinary hearing, including the three who claimed they had received threats via SMS.
The trio who claimed they were threatened not to testify in the disciplinary hearing were Loh, Lingam's sister Jayanti Govindarajulu Naidu and Lingam's brother Thirunama Karasu.
They filed a police report on the threats yesterday.
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Let's KOREK, KOREK and KOREK from Mr Lingam and see what sort of dirt/skeletons he has hidden on behalf of his political and business masters - Tun M, Vincent Tan, CJ, etc etc ... Let the show begin, it has been almost 2 years, I nearly forgot about the fun and entertainment, sometimes, reruns are fun too !!
Don't forget a witness Jayanthi, under oath, said she was paid cash RM3000 or was it 2k? by ACA.
No action at all.
RM250,000 for a Negeri Sembilan Datukship
'I was awarded datukship in 1991'
Malaysian Mirror, 14 August 2009
Malaysian Association of Tour and Travel Agents (Matta) president Joshua Peter Tan finally cleared the air over his datukship when he produced documents to prove that he had indeed been awarded a Negri Sembilan datukship in 1991.
robin tan.jpgAt a media conference yesterday, Tan produced the papers, including the list of prominent people in Negri Sembilan who received awards up to the year 2001/2002 which included his name as one of the recipients of the Darjah Dato’ Setia Negeri Sembilan (DSNS) award which bears the title “Datuk”. (Right - Star image)
According to the Star, Tan also said he went to the Negri Sembilan state secretariat yesterday to meet the officer who issued the July 15 letter which stated that he was never bestowed a datukship.
According to him, the secretariat said they had made a technical error.
Blame detractors in Matta
“The letter was made based on the fact that they looked into their files and did not find anything about me in the past seven years. They did not go further to search documents dated 20 years back,” he said.
Tan also showed reporters present, a framed letter issued by the state secretariat dated July 4, 1991 which showed the conferment of his title and a photograph of the inauguration ceremony.
However, he did not put the blame on the state secretariat but lashed out at the group of 16 Matta members whom he felt were out to topple him from his presidency.
Last week, a newspaper queried Tan on his title, which he claimed was from the Negri Sembilan state government and that he had the letter to verify it.
The authenticity of Tan’s position as Matta president was also being questioned after it was alleged that the association’s membership rolls used in the June 27 annual general meeting and elections were tainted with dubious members.
It resulted in a split in Matta’s leadership with Tan maintaining that he was the rightful president until the Registrar of Societies completed its investigations into the matter.
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Honestly I don't see why the royal families in Malaysia bothers to beg for projects from the government when they could make millions selling datuk and Tan Sri titles which is in so high demand. Better than getting APs even. Even at RM500,000 apiece, it will sell like hot cakes. After all, who says that they cannot sell these titles anyway. I say let them turn it into a commercial business. In exchange, they will forgo relying on financial aids from the rakyat. Killing two birds with one single stone, a win-win for all.
Even though these people paid RM250,000 for a "Datukship", soon it will be "a dime a dozen"! If you stay at Brisdale Hotel at Jln Tuanku Abdul Rahman during the UMNO convention, open the window and throw a small stone outside the hotel. You are bound to hear "aduh!" from an UMNO Datuk.
Similarly, if you do the same thing at Corus Hotel (formerly Ming Court)during the MCA General Assembly, you will hear, "aiyahh". . ., that means you have hit an MCA Datuk.
There are too many Datuks running around that you have to address everybody at the Hotel lobby as "Datuk"!
It reminds me that when I was a child in a tiny fishing village in Malacca, I used to throw scraps of bread into the brackish water at the mouth of a river. There are too many "belukang" fish with gaping mouth waiting for the bread scraps. Today's ubiquitous "Datuks" reminds me of the "belukangs"!
You know, sometimes instead of throwing bread scarps, I do throw stones at them too! And yes, the "belukang" do made some sound when the stones hit them!
Idioms:
A dime a dozen, means: Overly abundant; commonplace.(Source:The Free Dictionary by Farlex)
Be cautious, Muhyiddin warns BN duo
Muhyiddin wants the feuding duo to be careful
The Deputy Prime Minister today urged both Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat and Datuk Seri Tiong King Sing to be cautious when making public statements against each other.
"I don't want to advise but I want them to know the implications to the party and to the government," Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin told a press conference here.
Transport Minister Ong was accused by Kuala Dimensi Sdn Bhd, a company headed by Tiong, of not paying for four plane rides given by the Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) turnkey contractor, costing the company some US$40,000.
Tiong also alleged he had given RM10 million to Ong as a contribution to the MCA.
Both allegations surfaced after Port Klang Authority (PKA) chairman Lee Hwa Beng revealed a RM500 million false claim made by PKFZ.
Commenting on the accusations, Muhyiddin admitted that the issues were serious and the government has no intention to hide them from the public.
"I will leave to them how to deal with it, of course it doesn't help the government's image and the public wants to know," he said.
Muhyiddin refused to say whether he will meet Ong and Tiong, who is the Backbenchers Club chairman, to resolve the issue.
"I think BN leaders need not be reminded, I think they know what to do," he said.
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yes..pls sweep the PKFZ scandal under the carpet.
i am sure this is what muhyiddin wanna to see.
Wonder, who is the culprit behind this? Ong and Tiong are just sandiwara
Yeah! Don't wash all dirty linens in the public especially this PKFZ is the biggest of them all.
Be cautious! After you have eaten be sure to wipe your mouths clean, don't leave any trace behind. It's becoming very sensitive that it may cause the defeat in Permatang Pasir.
As a responsible & competent DPM, he has forgotten to instruct the IGP, AG, MACC to conduct a full investigation on these 2 fragile BN component parties for all their misdeeds & wrongdoings.
We rakyat expect more BN blunders & scandals to surface soon!
Let the mud racking continue. This is good. This is an education for the public on the dirty and murky world of BN politician and politician businessmen. These dirty tales let the people know why BN politicians must not be elected. They are greedy, money stealing, bribing, back stabbing people. If they cannot trust each other, how can we trust them. Out to the rubbish heaps with them.
DPM still not aware that Malaysia national wealth have been use as their pocket money, because he too had too much of it. If too much is being reveal, he is afraid he under the BN/UMNO label will not make it through for 13th GE.
The MACC's job is to cover PDRM's backside; and vice versa
Malaysians can't understand why the police is covering up the death of Teoh Beng Hock at the hands of the MACC. Well, when the MACC's job is to cover PDRM's backside what do you expect? You scratch my back and I scratch yours, the saying in Malaysia goes. And the MACC and PDRM treat this dogma as a religion that replaces Islam.
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MACC's integrity and accountability are already tainted beyond reprieve.
They are acting and behaving like gestapo-like busters!
Let's put a stop to all their sadistic acts!
And what is the common denominator between MACC and PDRM?
They are both serving and protected by the ruling elites!
Much as we have our doubts and anger towards MACC and PDRM, it would be better if we channeled it towards our ruling elites from BN!
The police is the UMNOputras security wing.
The MACC is under the UMNOputras direct control.
So only the small flies and those on the wrong side of the political divide will get the MACC treatment.
A visit to their 14th Floor office!
If they are lucky, they walk out alive to be charged in court.
If not, their corpse will be found on the 5th floor.
The MACC must be brought to account!
The MACC and PDRM are the arms and legs, the gangrenous parts of the ruling elites. The limbs need to be amputated if they cannot be saved from further infection. Let the ruling elites that constitute the brains, heart, body and soul feel the pain and face the consequences, while PR will do its utmost to replace the rotten limps with new, uncorruptible bionic ones.
The gangsters and thugs in Malaysia are so daring and fearless because they know they are protected by PDRM, leading all the way to Putrajaya. Based on RPK's previous article, RM5.5million was paid to Johari, Deputy Minister of Internal Security for some thugs' release from the prison.
So, you can see how aggressive these gangsters have to be to earn enough to line the pockets of these UMNO/BN dogs.
The Chinease businesses contribute 90% of Malaysia's income tax.
The Chinese thugs contribute to the wealth of the UMNO/BN dogs.
Where do the thugs get their revenue? They exhort, kidnap as well as using all illegal means to "earn" their income huge enough for themselves and the dogs.
The thugs thrive in Malaysia because they are protected by these dogs.
It is very sad.....the laypersons are affected daily by the thugs' activities.
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MACC's integrity and accountability are already tainted beyond reprieve.
They are acting and behaving like gestapo-like busters!
Let's put a stop to all their sadistic acts!
And what is the common denominator between MACC and PDRM?
They are both serving and protected by the ruling elites!
Much as we have our doubts and anger towards MACC and PDRM, it would be better if we channeled it towards our ruling elites from BN!
The police is the UMNOputras security wing.
The MACC is under the UMNOputras direct control.
So only the small flies and those on the wrong side of the political divide will get the MACC treatment.
A visit to their 14th Floor office!
If they are lucky, they walk out alive to be charged in court.
If not, their corpse will be found on the 5th floor.
The MACC must be brought to account!
The MACC and PDRM are the arms and legs, the gangrenous parts of the ruling elites. The limbs need to be amputated if they cannot be saved from further infection. Let the ruling elites that constitute the brains, heart, body and soul feel the pain and face the consequences, while PR will do its utmost to replace the rotten limps with new, uncorruptible bionic ones.
The gangsters and thugs in Malaysia are so daring and fearless because they know they are protected by PDRM, leading all the way to Putrajaya. Based on RPK's previous article, RM5.5million was paid to Johari, Deputy Minister of Internal Security for some thugs' release from the prison.
So, you can see how aggressive these gangsters have to be to earn enough to line the pockets of these UMNO/BN dogs.
The Chinease businesses contribute 90% of Malaysia's income tax.
The Chinese thugs contribute to the wealth of the UMNO/BN dogs.
Where do the thugs get their revenue? They exhort, kidnap as well as using all illegal means to "earn" their income huge enough for themselves and the dogs.
The thugs thrive in Malaysia because they are protected by these dogs.
It is very sad.....the laypersons are affected daily by the thugs' activities.
RTM reporter does not know who Karpal is
RTM reporter Eliana Mazlan admitted that she does not know which party Karpal Singh belongs to during his sedition trial in the High Court today.
She also does not know who Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim is and only described him as the president of Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR).
Eliana, the prosecution’s second witness, was subjected to a rigorous cross-examination by defence counsel Jagdeep Singh, and appeared rattled by the lawyer’s questions on the third day of Karpal‘s sedition trial.
She could not identify the component parties of Pakatan Rakyat and was taught a history lesson by Jagdeep on what transpired in the 2008 general election.
Eliana was also unable to show a clear understanding of Jagdeep’s questions on the transcript of the tape recording during Karpal’s press conference on Feb 6 this year.
The 26-year-old reporter had only been on the job for two months on the day of the press conference and her testimony is crucial to the introduction of an RTM video recording of Karpal’s statement to the press.
By questioning her understanding of what transpired during Karpal's press conference, the defence is attempting to prove she is an unreliable witness.
The DAP chairman and Bukit Gelugor MP was charged on March 17 with sedition, under Section 4(1)(b) of the Sedition Act 1948, for saying that Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin's removal as Perak mentri besar by Sultan Azlan Shah could be questioned in a court of law.
Karpal is further accused of several other seditious statements related to the entire Perak constitutional crisis which began two months ago.
He is accused of committing the offence during a press conference at his law firm here on Feb 6.
During cross-examination, Jagdeep decided to use the video after Eliana failed to answer several questions based on the transcript.
Jagdeep: Do you understand the meaning of ultra vires?
Eliana: I am not sure.
Jagdeep: So you don’t understand or not sure?
Eliana replied that she understood and the defence counsel asked the reporter to define the term.
Eliana: Actions that are above the law.
The defence counsel then asked her if she believes that definition provided by her colleague was correct.
Eliana: I am not sure.
Jagdeep: So it might be right?
Eliana: It might be right, it might be wrong.
On Wednesday, Utusan Malaysia reporter Mohd Nizam Mohd Yatim told the High Court that he thought the phrase “ultra vires” contained in a press release issued by Karpal meant the DAP man was insulting the Perak Sultan.
The defence counsel then referred to the video and asked the reporter if she understood what was shown on the clip.
Eliana: Karpal said that he will sue the Sultan of Perak because the Sultan is not qualified to interfere.
Jagdeep then asked her if she really believed what she said until the reporter finally admitted that she was not sure and asked for the clip to be replayed.
“So you are not sure. This is serious, you cannot just give answers like that,” Jagdeep scolded.
Judicial Commissioner Azman Abdullah then accepted the reporter’s request for the clip to be replayed.
Jagdeep: So do you agree that in the clip Karpal Singh said that we will sue the Sultan together with the new state government as defendants if they persist.
Eliana: We could mean I.
Jagdeep: So what is we? Do you understand English? What is we? So do you agree that we is not I?
The reporter kept quiet.
Jagdeep: So do you agree that your understanding (of the word we) was a complete misunderstanding?
Eliana: I don’t know.
The defence counsel continued to argue that based on the video and its transcript, Karpal did not force his opinion and was only giving his view.
Karpal also explained in the transcript that if the Sultan does not agree with his opinion then the Sultan can refer to the Federal Court under Article 64 of the constitution for a judicial review on whether the three assemblymen were still members of the state assembly.
Jagdeep: Do you agree that Karpal repeated three times in the transcript that the Sultan can refer to Article 64?
Eliana: Agree.
After the cross-examination, the defence requested for an adjournment and the judicial commissioner agreed.
The trial was then adjourned to the afternoon.
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HAHAHA way to go Jagdeep! corner them until they got nothing else to say! Just goes to show the lousy quality of RTM reporters.
Most classic is 'We could mean I' .. hahaha that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard!
Where on earth are we getting our Reporters from? What are their qualifications? Dont tell me its secondary school education only to be a journalist or reporter... Its really terrible and I really dont know if they are acting to be stupid purposely in a court of law. This really reflects badly on Malaysia's Journalism. The whole world should be laughing at you now..
Witnesses are morons, knee-jerk BN fools are morons, even Sultan himself is a moron for not understanding the law.
That's what happens when the majority tak reti speaking orang putih. It's gonna get worse in the next few years because now, UPSR is also irrelevant. So, the majority will get dumber and dumber. Before we know it, we're back to adat pepatih and other obsolete laws because the majority is absolutely lost bila cakap orang putih.
Dumb people in this country! Stupidity can cause deaths and there are just too many of them idiots here in Malaysia. Just like hazardous markings on cig boxes, idiots ought to be branded with IDIOTS on their forehead. Imagine walking on the streets of Malaysia, you'll find lots of them..
She also does not know who Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim is and only described him as the president of Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR).
Eliana, the prosecution’s second witness, was subjected to a rigorous cross-examination by defence counsel Jagdeep Singh, and appeared rattled by the lawyer’s questions on the third day of Karpal‘s sedition trial.
She could not identify the component parties of Pakatan Rakyat and was taught a history lesson by Jagdeep on what transpired in the 2008 general election.
Eliana was also unable to show a clear understanding of Jagdeep’s questions on the transcript of the tape recording during Karpal’s press conference on Feb 6 this year.
The 26-year-old reporter had only been on the job for two months on the day of the press conference and her testimony is crucial to the introduction of an RTM video recording of Karpal’s statement to the press.
By questioning her understanding of what transpired during Karpal's press conference, the defence is attempting to prove she is an unreliable witness.
The DAP chairman and Bukit Gelugor MP was charged on March 17 with sedition, under Section 4(1)(b) of the Sedition Act 1948, for saying that Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin's removal as Perak mentri besar by Sultan Azlan Shah could be questioned in a court of law.
Karpal is further accused of several other seditious statements related to the entire Perak constitutional crisis which began two months ago.
He is accused of committing the offence during a press conference at his law firm here on Feb 6.
During cross-examination, Jagdeep decided to use the video after Eliana failed to answer several questions based on the transcript.
Jagdeep: Do you understand the meaning of ultra vires?
Eliana: I am not sure.
Jagdeep: So you don’t understand or not sure?
Eliana replied that she understood and the defence counsel asked the reporter to define the term.
Eliana: Actions that are above the law.
The defence counsel then asked her if she believes that definition provided by her colleague was correct.
Eliana: I am not sure.
Jagdeep: So it might be right?
Eliana: It might be right, it might be wrong.
On Wednesday, Utusan Malaysia reporter Mohd Nizam Mohd Yatim told the High Court that he thought the phrase “ultra vires” contained in a press release issued by Karpal meant the DAP man was insulting the Perak Sultan.
The defence counsel then referred to the video and asked the reporter if she understood what was shown on the clip.
Eliana: Karpal said that he will sue the Sultan of Perak because the Sultan is not qualified to interfere.
Jagdeep then asked her if she really believed what she said until the reporter finally admitted that she was not sure and asked for the clip to be replayed.
“So you are not sure. This is serious, you cannot just give answers like that,” Jagdeep scolded.
Judicial Commissioner Azman Abdullah then accepted the reporter’s request for the clip to be replayed.
Jagdeep: So do you agree that in the clip Karpal Singh said that we will sue the Sultan together with the new state government as defendants if they persist.
Eliana: We could mean I.
Jagdeep: So what is we? Do you understand English? What is we? So do you agree that we is not I?
The reporter kept quiet.
Jagdeep: So do you agree that your understanding (of the word we) was a complete misunderstanding?
Eliana: I don’t know.
The defence counsel continued to argue that based on the video and its transcript, Karpal did not force his opinion and was only giving his view.
Karpal also explained in the transcript that if the Sultan does not agree with his opinion then the Sultan can refer to the Federal Court under Article 64 of the constitution for a judicial review on whether the three assemblymen were still members of the state assembly.
Jagdeep: Do you agree that Karpal repeated three times in the transcript that the Sultan can refer to Article 64?
Eliana: Agree.
After the cross-examination, the defence requested for an adjournment and the judicial commissioner agreed.
The trial was then adjourned to the afternoon.
comments
HAHAHA way to go Jagdeep! corner them until they got nothing else to say! Just goes to show the lousy quality of RTM reporters.
Most classic is 'We could mean I' .. hahaha that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard!
Where on earth are we getting our Reporters from? What are their qualifications? Dont tell me its secondary school education only to be a journalist or reporter... Its really terrible and I really dont know if they are acting to be stupid purposely in a court of law. This really reflects badly on Malaysia's Journalism. The whole world should be laughing at you now..
Witnesses are morons, knee-jerk BN fools are morons, even Sultan himself is a moron for not understanding the law.
That's what happens when the majority tak reti speaking orang putih. It's gonna get worse in the next few years because now, UPSR is also irrelevant. So, the majority will get dumber and dumber. Before we know it, we're back to adat pepatih and other obsolete laws because the majority is absolutely lost bila cakap orang putih.
Dumb people in this country! Stupidity can cause deaths and there are just too many of them idiots here in Malaysia. Just like hazardous markings on cig boxes, idiots ought to be branded with IDIOTS on their forehead. Imagine walking on the streets of Malaysia, you'll find lots of them..
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