Yusmadi Yusoff, the PKR Youth leader of Penang has hit out at Khairy Jamaluddin, the Umno Youth chief, calling him ‘Champagne Charlie’ for portraying himself as a reformist during his speech at the Umno Youth General Assembly. He said Khairy is manipulating the current political situation where he urged members to change their mindset to Malay leadership instead of Malay dominance.
Yusmadi said "Khairy is merely giving an impression that he was for reforms in the party and government. But he never really explained how Umno should effect the reform. He was merely trying to become a Champagne Charlie in a party by giving heroic reform speech,"
Yusmadi was speaking to local news portal Malaysiakini where he added “Given to the current public mood demanding reforms and changes in style of governance, especially in the dominant Umno, the PKR lawmaker suggested that Khairy was merely seizing the chance on a big stage to promote himself. The only thing he has done was to hold a protest before the American embassy under police protection. Can Khairy assure us that his so-called reform outcry will include these attributes? I am convinced that Umno can never reform,"
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This unemployed punk is trying to win votes to become PM of Malaysia!
Oh well .. doesn't really matter if UMNO want to keep KJ their Ketua Pemuda as their idol .. Sure am glad these looser are so easy to spot .. I just don’t want to waste my time for them ..
This son-in law of ex PM is drunk with alcohol. He is too much politicise and always talking cock.
17 October 2009
Govt should reduce aid to Pakatan states so that they don’t benefit from the BN govt
Abdul Shukur Idrus, the Umno delegate of Selangor in debating the president’s speech at the party’s General Assembly has called on federal aids to opposition-ruled states to be reduced and said that such aid should instead be channeled directly to the people because the parties in the Pakatan Rakyat is benefiting through the socio-economic programmes and projects.
He said “The Pakatan Rakyat-ruled Selangor government gave RM1,000 to finance funeral arrangements to the people in the state while Umno provided RM300. The state government also provided RM1,500 to the elderly. The people in the state are talking about the opposition government giving aid to the people. Little do the people know that what the opposition government is giving comes from the Barisan Nasional Federal government,”
He added that “The Federal Government should reduce payments to the opposition state governments so that the people there could see which party provided greater assistance.” Another delegate Samsol Bari Jamali who is from Johor said that the compromise and fairness to all races by Umno is creating dissatisfaction among the Malay community. He said “Umno’s spirit of compromise and fairness for all races had created dissatisfaction among the Malays. This negative feeling was exacerbated by the divisive politics generated by the opposition parties to create hatred among the people for Umno. The Government implement the life quality index introduced by the Economic Planning Unit to help identify and help poor Malays. This method will enable Umno to provide proper and equitable assistance to the Malays,”
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Bloody racists and this is what 1Malaysia is all about!
Why not break Malaysia into 2 pcs ? Better still .... we can have 2 Malaysia instead of 1 ....
Do Abdul Shukur Idrus knows what he is talking about ??????
This excately what happen in Sabah & Sawarak, when BN channel funds into Sabah & Sawarak, many of these funds did not flow directly into the Sabah & Sawarak State goverment, it was 'control' by a group of Umnoputeras from the FG, all projects and payment had to be go through them instead of the East Malaysia state goverment..... meaning the FG 'gasak' the 1st round then the State Goverment 'gasak' the 2nd round. Thats why when the funds reaches the rakyat ... what is left is only bones ... all flesh had been eaten by those vultures.
Same thing happen to the oil royalty at Terengganu when PAS is the goverment, the FG had the final said but not the State Goverment. Now lagi worst, FG gasak the whole RM 1 billion of oil royalty of Kelantan (According to Tengku Razaleigh " FG must paid Kelantan the RM1 billion on oil royalty " because it is Tengku Razaleigh who drafted the agreement between the Federal Goverment ,Kelantan Goverment and Petronas).
When PAS won Terengganu state, how come the FG still keep on getting all the oil from the Terengganu state.
In our country, idiots like Abdul Shukur can only be found in Umno .... no where else ... sometimes, even the patients in Tanjung Bahagia (Tanjung Rambutan) give better logical comments then these Umno goons.
Where has your brain gone too. Perhapas it has gone to your backside with full of shit.. No wonder you don't think and talk. Can you imagine if we have a PM of this p*g brain. Now who is the main contributed of taxes. The chinese are. Therefore, the chinese should direct the government to only contribute all their taxes to the chinese community. Then what is the Malays going to do. Non of the Malay cronies wants to contribute taxes. So you guys can back to the "ladang" and tanam ubi..
it is really sickening to see there are plenty of this kind of umno malays which hold such sickening mentality! this country will have no hope to be united if this party be given another chance to rule in next election !!
What do you expect from an idiotic UMNO member He thinks all the monies in the federal coffers belong to UMNO That is why the rob the Treasury like their fathers'money.The avoid paying taxes and yet the claim all the monies are theirs; I am not surprised by this kind of talk.This is because the so call smart PM talks the same lingo.This is typical of the Malay UMNO mentality.
He said “The Pakatan Rakyat-ruled Selangor government gave RM1,000 to finance funeral arrangements to the people in the state while Umno provided RM300. The state government also provided RM1,500 to the elderly. The people in the state are talking about the opposition government giving aid to the people. Little do the people know that what the opposition government is giving comes from the Barisan Nasional Federal government,”
He added that “The Federal Government should reduce payments to the opposition state governments so that the people there could see which party provided greater assistance.” Another delegate Samsol Bari Jamali who is from Johor said that the compromise and fairness to all races by Umno is creating dissatisfaction among the Malay community. He said “Umno’s spirit of compromise and fairness for all races had created dissatisfaction among the Malays. This negative feeling was exacerbated by the divisive politics generated by the opposition parties to create hatred among the people for Umno. The Government implement the life quality index introduced by the Economic Planning Unit to help identify and help poor Malays. This method will enable Umno to provide proper and equitable assistance to the Malays,”
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Bloody racists and this is what 1Malaysia is all about!
Why not break Malaysia into 2 pcs ? Better still .... we can have 2 Malaysia instead of 1 ....
Do Abdul Shukur Idrus knows what he is talking about ??????
This excately what happen in Sabah & Sawarak, when BN channel funds into Sabah & Sawarak, many of these funds did not flow directly into the Sabah & Sawarak State goverment, it was 'control' by a group of Umnoputeras from the FG, all projects and payment had to be go through them instead of the East Malaysia state goverment..... meaning the FG 'gasak' the 1st round then the State Goverment 'gasak' the 2nd round. Thats why when the funds reaches the rakyat ... what is left is only bones ... all flesh had been eaten by those vultures.
Same thing happen to the oil royalty at Terengganu when PAS is the goverment, the FG had the final said but not the State Goverment. Now lagi worst, FG gasak the whole RM 1 billion of oil royalty of Kelantan (According to Tengku Razaleigh " FG must paid Kelantan the RM1 billion on oil royalty " because it is Tengku Razaleigh who drafted the agreement between the Federal Goverment ,Kelantan Goverment and Petronas).
When PAS won Terengganu state, how come the FG still keep on getting all the oil from the Terengganu state.
In our country, idiots like Abdul Shukur can only be found in Umno .... no where else ... sometimes, even the patients in Tanjung Bahagia (Tanjung Rambutan) give better logical comments then these Umno goons.
Where has your brain gone too. Perhapas it has gone to your backside with full of shit.. No wonder you don't think and talk. Can you imagine if we have a PM of this p*g brain. Now who is the main contributed of taxes. The chinese are. Therefore, the chinese should direct the government to only contribute all their taxes to the chinese community. Then what is the Malays going to do. Non of the Malay cronies wants to contribute taxes. So you guys can back to the "ladang" and tanam ubi..
it is really sickening to see there are plenty of this kind of umno malays which hold such sickening mentality! this country will have no hope to be united if this party be given another chance to rule in next election !!
What do you expect from an idiotic UMNO member He thinks all the monies in the federal coffers belong to UMNO That is why the rob the Treasury like their fathers'money.The avoid paying taxes and yet the claim all the monies are theirs; I am not surprised by this kind of talk.This is because the so call smart PM talks the same lingo.This is typical of the Malay UMNO mentality.
Dr M dismisses Khairy’s call to end ‘siege mentality’
Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad yesterday brushed aside Khairy Jamaluddin’s call for Malays to end their siege mentality, pointing out that perhaps “some of us are already successful.”
But the former prime minister said there were still many Malays who found it hard to make a living.
Dr Mahathir said last night he believed Malays still had a siege mentality because of their relative poverty.
“Maybe the average Malay feels that he is under siege, so to speak because he does not earn enough,” said Dr Mahathir.
He was commenting Umno Youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin’s speech at the Umno general assembly.
“Well, maybe some of us feel that we are already successful, so we don’t need to be under ‘siege’,” said Dr Mahathir.
Khairy had this week urged Malays to end their siege mentality and emphasise Malay leadership as opposed to Ketuanan Melayu, or Malay supremacy.
His call to end the siege mentality was virtually blacked out by Umno’s Malay-language newspapers. Only English-language newspapers, vernacular and online media published stories emphasising the siege mentality part of his speech.
Khairy was also criticised by a number of right-wing Umno blogs, with many likening his remarks to something which Opposition Leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim would say.
When asked last night, Dr Mahathir — a fierce critic of Khairy — declined to say whether he agreed or disagreed with the Umno Youth chief’s remarks.
“I’m not saying I’m agreeing or disagreeing with what he (Khairy) said. I don’t have to agree or disagree with anything.”
Khairy has been forced to defend his remarks after receiving flak from right-wing elements in the party.
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Definately UMNO would prefer the seige mentality to continue so that UMNO can continue to hold on to the malays for depending on UMNO. But at the end of the day, the country will loose out. Seige mentally will not breed creativity, this already happen to those graduate churn out each year from the public university which not able to get employment. They only depend on the government to provide them employment. When the country petronas money dry up in 10years time, the country will nopt be able to subsidy the malays, which form the majority. What will happen to the rayat by than?. only god knows.
Malays still form the bulk of the poor and they remain relatively poor but that's all primarily because of the policies that were implemented over the two decades when Dr. M. was PM. His policies enriched the few at the expense of the majority. His policies in education, for instance, set the Malays and the whole nation back. We were once among the best in Asia but today we are so far behind that none of our universities have made it to the top 500 in the Academic Ranking of World Universities which is a far more objective ranking system than that of the THES.
But the former prime minister said there were still many Malays who found it hard to make a living.
Dr Mahathir said last night he believed Malays still had a siege mentality because of their relative poverty.
“Maybe the average Malay feels that he is under siege, so to speak because he does not earn enough,” said Dr Mahathir.
He was commenting Umno Youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin’s speech at the Umno general assembly.
“Well, maybe some of us feel that we are already successful, so we don’t need to be under ‘siege’,” said Dr Mahathir.
Khairy had this week urged Malays to end their siege mentality and emphasise Malay leadership as opposed to Ketuanan Melayu, or Malay supremacy.
His call to end the siege mentality was virtually blacked out by Umno’s Malay-language newspapers. Only English-language newspapers, vernacular and online media published stories emphasising the siege mentality part of his speech.
Khairy was also criticised by a number of right-wing Umno blogs, with many likening his remarks to something which Opposition Leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim would say.
When asked last night, Dr Mahathir — a fierce critic of Khairy — declined to say whether he agreed or disagreed with the Umno Youth chief’s remarks.
“I’m not saying I’m agreeing or disagreeing with what he (Khairy) said. I don’t have to agree or disagree with anything.”
Khairy has been forced to defend his remarks after receiving flak from right-wing elements in the party.
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Definately UMNO would prefer the seige mentality to continue so that UMNO can continue to hold on to the malays for depending on UMNO. But at the end of the day, the country will loose out. Seige mentally will not breed creativity, this already happen to those graduate churn out each year from the public university which not able to get employment. They only depend on the government to provide them employment. When the country petronas money dry up in 10years time, the country will nopt be able to subsidy the malays, which form the majority. What will happen to the rayat by than?. only god knows.
Malays still form the bulk of the poor and they remain relatively poor but that's all primarily because of the policies that were implemented over the two decades when Dr. M. was PM. His policies enriched the few at the expense of the majority. His policies in education, for instance, set the Malays and the whole nation back. We were once among the best in Asia but today we are so far behind that none of our universities have made it to the top 500 in the Academic Ranking of World Universities which is a far more objective ranking system than that of the THES.
Ibrahim Ali may consider rejoining Umno
Pasir Mas member of parliament Datuk Paduka Ibrahim Ali is keeping his options open on the possibility of him rejoining Umno.
He said he might do so if the party could successfully translate the change outlined by its leadership.
“If the party successfully translates the change demanded by the president and deputy president, I may be keen to be with Umno but not in the near future,” he told Bernama when contacted.
Saying that he had never been a PAS member, Ibrahim, an independent MP, said he was drawn towards Umno of late following the leadership change in the party and because the party had shown its determination to safeguard the interest of the Malays.
Ibrahim became an Umno member in 1981 but was sacked from the party for contesting as an independent candidate in the 2004 general election.
He likened Umno to a party which was unwell.
“However, it has found the medicine for its illness. The only thing is whether the party will take the medicine and take it according to the prescription,” he said
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The ugly frog jumps again! It's not for you to decide which party you wish to join, imbecile! It's up to which party that wish to have you! PAS shouldn't have let him contest under their party in the 1st place. And if UMNO wish to accept him..then so much the better...cos he'll bring doom to the racist party!
Not only UMNO is unwell but Ibrahim Ali himself is sick. He can join UMNO but remember the seat he won was based on PAS ticket. If he still has any dignity left he should resign from the parliamentary seat so a frest election can be held to determine who the people of Pasir Mas really want.
By keeping his "options open" (as if people like him will have any options), he meant how much will be offered to him, just like the 3 Perak low lives, to sell out his soul and party. And imagine people like him talking of religion and all. As far as we are concerned, you can 'BERAMBUS" !!
He said he might do so if the party could successfully translate the change outlined by its leadership.
“If the party successfully translates the change demanded by the president and deputy president, I may be keen to be with Umno but not in the near future,” he told Bernama when contacted.
Saying that he had never been a PAS member, Ibrahim, an independent MP, said he was drawn towards Umno of late following the leadership change in the party and because the party had shown its determination to safeguard the interest of the Malays.
Ibrahim became an Umno member in 1981 but was sacked from the party for contesting as an independent candidate in the 2004 general election.
He likened Umno to a party which was unwell.
“However, it has found the medicine for its illness. The only thing is whether the party will take the medicine and take it according to the prescription,” he said
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The ugly frog jumps again! It's not for you to decide which party you wish to join, imbecile! It's up to which party that wish to have you! PAS shouldn't have let him contest under their party in the 1st place. And if UMNO wish to accept him..then so much the better...cos he'll bring doom to the racist party!
Not only UMNO is unwell but Ibrahim Ali himself is sick. He can join UMNO but remember the seat he won was based on PAS ticket. If he still has any dignity left he should resign from the parliamentary seat so a frest election can be held to determine who the people of Pasir Mas really want.
By keeping his "options open" (as if people like him will have any options), he meant how much will be offered to him, just like the 3 Perak low lives, to sell out his soul and party. And imagine people like him talking of religion and all. As far as we are concerned, you can 'BERAMBUS" !!
Muhyiddin: Umno now ready to take on its foes By Syed Jaymal Zahiid
The successful effort to “democratise” the party through its constitutional changes has given birth to a stronger Umno that is ready to oust its foes in the battle for voters said Umno deputy president Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin today.
The battle cry was made during his winding-up speech at the closing of the party’s three-day special assembly that saw Umno’s quota system for the party polls removed in a bid to quash the influence of party warlords and money politics.
“I feel that a new spirit of change and transformation to strengthen the party is creeping in and embedded in the soul of Umno fighters present here today,” said Muhyiddin.
“The current mood is now very different from the sombre and depressing atmosphere caused by the trauma engulfing us right after the 12th general elections,” he added.
“People said we cannot change, as if our party is destroyed and is no longer accepted by the people. In fact when there was leadership change, there were foul voices that predicted the new president will be the last Umno prime minister.
“They have been proven wrong,” said Muhyiddin.
The constitutional amendments are part of Umno and its new president Datuk Seri Najib’s effort to regain public trust by sending a message through its internal reform measures that it will change its ways.
Umno and its allies in the Barisan Nasional were knocked hard by a resurgent opposition in what has been dubbed a “political tsunami” in Election 2008 when voters denied the ruling coalition its traditional two-thirds majority in Parliament.
The party’s leaders were also accused of elitism by its own members.
But Muhyiddin believes this has all changed.
“There is a new spirit after the Janda Baik meet,” he said in reference to the retreat held by the party recently.
“Leaders from all levels have set clear guidelines as to how the party can be pushed forward through grassroots-friendly programmes that will bring us close to the ground for a first-hand look at what the problems are,” he said.
Though his rivals may disagree, Muhyiddin said the Bagan Pinang by-election victory was a clear example of how a grassroots-friendly Umno could win not just the Malay but the non-Malay votes as well.
Umno’s candidate, former party vice-president and Negeri Sembilan Mentri Besar Tan Sri Isa Samad, a very popular figure there, was seen as the major factor behind the party’s Bagan Pinang success.
Muhyiddin was, however, quick to warn the party against complacency and urged party supporters to change their attitude if they wanted Umno to remain relevant.
“There are still old habits. We say we want to change but we never do and if we do, it’s always too slow,” he said.
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You only have empty vessels in UMNO and they make the most noise. Good examples are our DPM himself and not to forget the useless offspring of Tun Hussein Onn. Even retarded children make more intelligent noise then they.
Only fools like to make loud noise! Empty vessel make the most noise!!!!!
The battle cry was made during his winding-up speech at the closing of the party’s three-day special assembly that saw Umno’s quota system for the party polls removed in a bid to quash the influence of party warlords and money politics.
“I feel that a new spirit of change and transformation to strengthen the party is creeping in and embedded in the soul of Umno fighters present here today,” said Muhyiddin.
“The current mood is now very different from the sombre and depressing atmosphere caused by the trauma engulfing us right after the 12th general elections,” he added.
“People said we cannot change, as if our party is destroyed and is no longer accepted by the people. In fact when there was leadership change, there were foul voices that predicted the new president will be the last Umno prime minister.
“They have been proven wrong,” said Muhyiddin.
The constitutional amendments are part of Umno and its new president Datuk Seri Najib’s effort to regain public trust by sending a message through its internal reform measures that it will change its ways.
Umno and its allies in the Barisan Nasional were knocked hard by a resurgent opposition in what has been dubbed a “political tsunami” in Election 2008 when voters denied the ruling coalition its traditional two-thirds majority in Parliament.
The party’s leaders were also accused of elitism by its own members.
But Muhyiddin believes this has all changed.
“There is a new spirit after the Janda Baik meet,” he said in reference to the retreat held by the party recently.
“Leaders from all levels have set clear guidelines as to how the party can be pushed forward through grassroots-friendly programmes that will bring us close to the ground for a first-hand look at what the problems are,” he said.
Though his rivals may disagree, Muhyiddin said the Bagan Pinang by-election victory was a clear example of how a grassroots-friendly Umno could win not just the Malay but the non-Malay votes as well.
Umno’s candidate, former party vice-president and Negeri Sembilan Mentri Besar Tan Sri Isa Samad, a very popular figure there, was seen as the major factor behind the party’s Bagan Pinang success.
Muhyiddin was, however, quick to warn the party against complacency and urged party supporters to change their attitude if they wanted Umno to remain relevant.
“There are still old habits. We say we want to change but we never do and if we do, it’s always too slow,” he said.
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You only have empty vessels in UMNO and they make the most noise. Good examples are our DPM himself and not to forget the useless offspring of Tun Hussein Onn. Even retarded children make more intelligent noise then they.
Only fools like to make loud noise! Empty vessel make the most noise!!!!!
16 October 2009
Zaid Ibrahim's press statement, 16 October 2009
I joined PKR because of my interest to try and put together a common policy platform for Pakatan Rakyat (PR). This common policy framework for the coalition of the 3 parties, PKR, DAP and PAS respectively, are now in the final stages and I expect to submit the policy framework to the leadership of the respective parties next week.
Zaid Ibrahim
(A) PAKATAN RAKYAT
Effective today, I will be taking 6 months leave from Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR). This means that I will not be attending the political bureau meetings of the party. A letter to that effect has been submitted to the Secretary-General of the party.
I joined PKR because of my interest to try and put together a common policy platform for Pakatan Rakyat (PR). This common policy framework for the coalition of the 3 parties, PKR, DAP and PAS respectively, are now in the final stages and I expect to submit the policy framework to the leadership of the respective parties next week.
That being said, a lot more work has to be done in understanding the concerns of the members and the rakyat. A lot more work still needs to be done to provide a cohesive foundation for the coalition and this involves meeting various leaders and members of the respective parties. With the Pakatan Rakyat Convention due to take place in December 2009, I need time to finalise the policy framework which hopefully will be approved by the leadership of the respective parties.
Lately, there have been reports of the political frictions of the PKR leadership with regards to Sabah and Sarawak and that I was in some way involved. I wish to reiterate that I am not at all involved in the leadership issue of PKR Sabah and Sarawak. I have been invited to attend Hari Raya functions and gatherings by PKR leaders to meet the members, which I have accepted. Similarly, I have also been invited to meet some leaders of Sarawak in Kuching. I see no sinister motive in these invitations.
I have no interest in the internal politics of PKR, nor of any of the other parties in Pakatan Rakyat. Neither do I aspire to assume a leadership role in PKR. I made this very clear to Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim when I joined the party. I only want to be a facilitator to bring about the realization of a strong, credible and united opposition — an opposition with a strong leadership, sound common policies and structures to be a meaningful alternative to Barsian Nasional (BN). Only a strong united opposition can restore democracy in this country and can provide good policies to the people.
We must move beyond the BN bashing and sloganeering stage. Only clearly defined policies and a united leadership of Pakatan Rakayat can convince Malaysians that we are a suitable choice for the rakyat. I hope that from my meetings, dialogues and discussions with the members of the 3 parties at all levels, the dream of a united opposition can be realized.
(B) Prime Minister’s Statement
I also refer to the statement by the Prime Minister on 13th October 2009 about my involvement in money politics when I was in UMNO.
When I was made a Minister, one of the first things I did was to ask the then- Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA), to investigate the findings of money politics against me by the UMNO Disciplinary Tribunal. I believe I was framed by UMNO and found the findings of the Tribunal flawed, where basic rules of evidence were ignored. I felt that a Minister should be free of such misconduct, especially when the Government had committed itself to rid of corruption in the country. I believe my request was acted upon by the ACA and they commenced investigations. I have not heard of the findings till today.
The Prime Minister should not take jibes at me when it suits him. He should be more interested in the truth. I therefore wish to appeal to him, to instruct the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) to complete its investigation and the findings disclosed to the public. I am prepared to face the charges if there is evidence of corrupt practice. But if I am innocent, then the Prime Minister should hold his peace and refrain from making such statements in the future.
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Although there have been reports of disagreements within Pakatan Rakyat, they are miles ahead of BN in managing the country. BN leaders are only interested in stealing from the people and their leaders are exemplified by their latest State Assemblyman, who acknowledged being involved in corrupt practices.
What hope do we have for the future generations if BN continues to govern Malaysia?
Right thinking citizens do not have any problem in choosing who they want to govern Malaysia. I believe that when the educated rakyat increases in number, BN will definitely become history.
Whether we like it or not, Pakatan is alive because of Anwar. If not for Anwar, DAP and PAS would not have agreed to coooperate and join PKR to form Pakatan Rakyat as a decent alternative to the despicable UMNO/BN. Even without any of UMNO's underhand and dirty tricks and acts, some members of Pakatan are on a self-destruct mission - e.g. PAS's Hassan Ali's stupid acts in Selangor. The person holding the fragile Pakatan together is Anwar. If Anwar goes, that will be the end of Pakatan.
UMNO is full aware of this fact. That's why they are bent on taking out Anwar. Anwar will be found guilty under Sodomy II and will be put away for good. Najib, Mahathir, Hishamudin, Khairy, etc. have already pledged, short of swearing on the Koran, that Anwar will be prevented from becoming PM and that these crooks will do whatever is necessary to destroy Anwar. If Sodomy II fails to convict Anwar, due to some unforeseen reasons such as a decent judge presiding the case, there will be Sodomy III or other disgusting charges lined up against Anwar - the country is full of Saifuls willing to sell their .... to UMNO for millions. The UMNO crooks (Mahathir, Najib, Hishamudin, etc.) are evil to the core and will not rest until Anwar is destroyed. They know the consequences if Pakatan and Anwar come into power. These crooks' evil deeds and corruption will be exposed and their prentious glory, as in the case of the evil despot Mahathir, will come to an end.
It is clear that Anwar is treading on thin ice and may be taken down any time by UMNO and its servants (Police, the courts, MACC and the AG). Unless there is a second in command, an alternative to Anwar, Pakatan will also go down with Anwar. That second in command must be someone decent, respectable, intelligent and acceptable to all the Rakyat regardless of race or religion. The are only 2 possibilities - Zaid and Nizar. Of the two, Zaid is highly experienced, knows the working of UMNO and would be a formidable opponent for Najib, etc. and hence is right for the number 2 position after Anwar.
Zaid is one of the most decent politicians in the country, an intelligent gentleman who is not afraid to stand up for noble principles and causes. If PKR, as well as DAP and PAS, is not able to take advantage of Zaid, that says a lot their true character. It looks like UMNO-plants in PKR are doing their best to undermine PKR by opposing Zaid. Why? Because, PKR/Pakatan stand a chance to be a viable and respected alternative to UMNO/BN with Zaid as one of the key leaders and a possible alternative to Anwar to lead the nation when PK wins the GE. The best way to destroy Pakatan and PKR is to make sure that good decent leaders such as Zaid are not allowed to rise. The UMNO-plants and allies in PKR , PAS and DAP are determined to sideline Zaid because, should anything happen to Anwar, Zaid is the only other leader in Pakatan who can lead the coalition to win in the next GE. The best way to kill Pakatan is to prevent Zaid from becoming the second in command and an alternative to Anwar. It looks like the evil plan of UMNO is succeeding through its moles in Pakatan.
With Zaid as number 2, Nizar will make a good number 3. Unfortunately, there is no one in DAP who has the same appeal as Anwar, Zaid and Nizar across all the races and across the country. Lim Guan Eng and Ramasamy, as the most distinguished DAP politicians currently, could therefore be no. 4 and 5 respectively in the Pakatan leadership lineup. It is imperative for Pakatan to come up with a leadership and succession plan so that, should something happen to Anwar, Pakatan will not disappear. The following leadership plan is therefore being proposed (pls vote as appropriate to show your approval/disapproval):
Proposed Pakatan Rakyat Top Leadership to form the next Malayian Govt.
1.Tuan guru nik abdul aziz
2. Anwar Ibrahim
3. Zaid Ibrahim
4. Nizar Jamaludin
5. Lim Guan Eng
6. Ramasamy
Zaid Ibrahim
(A) PAKATAN RAKYAT
Effective today, I will be taking 6 months leave from Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR). This means that I will not be attending the political bureau meetings of the party. A letter to that effect has been submitted to the Secretary-General of the party.
I joined PKR because of my interest to try and put together a common policy platform for Pakatan Rakyat (PR). This common policy framework for the coalition of the 3 parties, PKR, DAP and PAS respectively, are now in the final stages and I expect to submit the policy framework to the leadership of the respective parties next week.
That being said, a lot more work has to be done in understanding the concerns of the members and the rakyat. A lot more work still needs to be done to provide a cohesive foundation for the coalition and this involves meeting various leaders and members of the respective parties. With the Pakatan Rakyat Convention due to take place in December 2009, I need time to finalise the policy framework which hopefully will be approved by the leadership of the respective parties.
Lately, there have been reports of the political frictions of the PKR leadership with regards to Sabah and Sarawak and that I was in some way involved. I wish to reiterate that I am not at all involved in the leadership issue of PKR Sabah and Sarawak. I have been invited to attend Hari Raya functions and gatherings by PKR leaders to meet the members, which I have accepted. Similarly, I have also been invited to meet some leaders of Sarawak in Kuching. I see no sinister motive in these invitations.
I have no interest in the internal politics of PKR, nor of any of the other parties in Pakatan Rakyat. Neither do I aspire to assume a leadership role in PKR. I made this very clear to Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim when I joined the party. I only want to be a facilitator to bring about the realization of a strong, credible and united opposition — an opposition with a strong leadership, sound common policies and structures to be a meaningful alternative to Barsian Nasional (BN). Only a strong united opposition can restore democracy in this country and can provide good policies to the people.
We must move beyond the BN bashing and sloganeering stage. Only clearly defined policies and a united leadership of Pakatan Rakayat can convince Malaysians that we are a suitable choice for the rakyat. I hope that from my meetings, dialogues and discussions with the members of the 3 parties at all levels, the dream of a united opposition can be realized.
(B) Prime Minister’s Statement
I also refer to the statement by the Prime Minister on 13th October 2009 about my involvement in money politics when I was in UMNO.
When I was made a Minister, one of the first things I did was to ask the then- Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA), to investigate the findings of money politics against me by the UMNO Disciplinary Tribunal. I believe I was framed by UMNO and found the findings of the Tribunal flawed, where basic rules of evidence were ignored. I felt that a Minister should be free of such misconduct, especially when the Government had committed itself to rid of corruption in the country. I believe my request was acted upon by the ACA and they commenced investigations. I have not heard of the findings till today.
The Prime Minister should not take jibes at me when it suits him. He should be more interested in the truth. I therefore wish to appeal to him, to instruct the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) to complete its investigation and the findings disclosed to the public. I am prepared to face the charges if there is evidence of corrupt practice. But if I am innocent, then the Prime Minister should hold his peace and refrain from making such statements in the future.
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Although there have been reports of disagreements within Pakatan Rakyat, they are miles ahead of BN in managing the country. BN leaders are only interested in stealing from the people and their leaders are exemplified by their latest State Assemblyman, who acknowledged being involved in corrupt practices.
What hope do we have for the future generations if BN continues to govern Malaysia?
Right thinking citizens do not have any problem in choosing who they want to govern Malaysia. I believe that when the educated rakyat increases in number, BN will definitely become history.
Whether we like it or not, Pakatan is alive because of Anwar. If not for Anwar, DAP and PAS would not have agreed to coooperate and join PKR to form Pakatan Rakyat as a decent alternative to the despicable UMNO/BN. Even without any of UMNO's underhand and dirty tricks and acts, some members of Pakatan are on a self-destruct mission - e.g. PAS's Hassan Ali's stupid acts in Selangor. The person holding the fragile Pakatan together is Anwar. If Anwar goes, that will be the end of Pakatan.
UMNO is full aware of this fact. That's why they are bent on taking out Anwar. Anwar will be found guilty under Sodomy II and will be put away for good. Najib, Mahathir, Hishamudin, Khairy, etc. have already pledged, short of swearing on the Koran, that Anwar will be prevented from becoming PM and that these crooks will do whatever is necessary to destroy Anwar. If Sodomy II fails to convict Anwar, due to some unforeseen reasons such as a decent judge presiding the case, there will be Sodomy III or other disgusting charges lined up against Anwar - the country is full of Saifuls willing to sell their .... to UMNO for millions. The UMNO crooks (Mahathir, Najib, Hishamudin, etc.) are evil to the core and will not rest until Anwar is destroyed. They know the consequences if Pakatan and Anwar come into power. These crooks' evil deeds and corruption will be exposed and their prentious glory, as in the case of the evil despot Mahathir, will come to an end.
It is clear that Anwar is treading on thin ice and may be taken down any time by UMNO and its servants (Police, the courts, MACC and the AG). Unless there is a second in command, an alternative to Anwar, Pakatan will also go down with Anwar. That second in command must be someone decent, respectable, intelligent and acceptable to all the Rakyat regardless of race or religion. The are only 2 possibilities - Zaid and Nizar. Of the two, Zaid is highly experienced, knows the working of UMNO and would be a formidable opponent for Najib, etc. and hence is right for the number 2 position after Anwar.
Zaid is one of the most decent politicians in the country, an intelligent gentleman who is not afraid to stand up for noble principles and causes. If PKR, as well as DAP and PAS, is not able to take advantage of Zaid, that says a lot their true character. It looks like UMNO-plants in PKR are doing their best to undermine PKR by opposing Zaid. Why? Because, PKR/Pakatan stand a chance to be a viable and respected alternative to UMNO/BN with Zaid as one of the key leaders and a possible alternative to Anwar to lead the nation when PK wins the GE. The best way to destroy Pakatan and PKR is to make sure that good decent leaders such as Zaid are not allowed to rise. The UMNO-plants and allies in PKR , PAS and DAP are determined to sideline Zaid because, should anything happen to Anwar, Zaid is the only other leader in Pakatan who can lead the coalition to win in the next GE. The best way to kill Pakatan is to prevent Zaid from becoming the second in command and an alternative to Anwar. It looks like the evil plan of UMNO is succeeding through its moles in Pakatan.
With Zaid as number 2, Nizar will make a good number 3. Unfortunately, there is no one in DAP who has the same appeal as Anwar, Zaid and Nizar across all the races and across the country. Lim Guan Eng and Ramasamy, as the most distinguished DAP politicians currently, could therefore be no. 4 and 5 respectively in the Pakatan leadership lineup. It is imperative for Pakatan to come up with a leadership and succession plan so that, should something happen to Anwar, Pakatan will not disappear. The following leadership plan is therefore being proposed (pls vote as appropriate to show your approval/disapproval):
Proposed Pakatan Rakyat Top Leadership to form the next Malayian Govt.
1.Tuan guru nik abdul aziz
2. Anwar Ibrahim
3. Zaid Ibrahim
4. Nizar Jamaludin
5. Lim Guan Eng
6. Ramasamy
Dr M says Umno still needs BN
Mahathir believes Umno cannot afford to go it alone.
Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad believes Umno still needs its component partners in Barisan National (BN).
The former Umno president explained that Umno cannot solely depend on the Malay community to rule the country.
“No, I think we need the component parties. We have been working together, this country is a multi-racial country, you cannot rule this country by just one race even if they are in the majority,” he said.
Dr Mahathir said that Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s speech truly reflected the struggle faced by Umno today.
“His speech was spirited, I think he realises the problem faced by Umno and has planned ways to get the party closer to the people,” he told reporters after listening to the Umno president’s opening speech at the party’s general assembly this morning.
He added that pressure is now on for Umno leaders to get closer to the grassroots.
“We find that many leaders in Umno distance themselves from the people and use power to get support from the people and this clearly does not work,” he said.
However Dr Mahathir feels that time might be too short for Umno to reform but emphasised that the party must deliver in order to regain support from the people.
“It is relatively easy to make speeches and promises but after this I am quite sure that the people will be watching whether you deliver or not, whether you walk the talk.
“After this I am quite sure that not only Umno members but the whole country will be watching so the government and the party must deliver on the promises,” he said.
Dr Mahathir also added that while the constitutional amendments will make the party more democratic he fears that money politics will still be a factor.
“I am not so sure that you can get rid of money politics but it is a little bit more democratic perhaps. I know these people, they will try but I hope they will stop making use of money in order to get votes,” he said.
Umno’s patience and confidence with the current power-sharing agreement with its partners in BN is apparently wearing thin.
During a rare three-day gathering of Umno divisions in Janda Baik last week, a common refrain heard was that Umno should be less generous in giving up Malay-majority seats to representatives of MCA, MIC, Gerakan and other component parties.
The general view among division chiefs was that the component parties were much weaker than Umno and would not be able to swing votes from the non-Malays or the Malays.
In contrast, a strong Umno was better placed to win in Malay-majority seats. So far, Najib has been non-committal to the push from Umno chiefs, but if MCA continues to be wracked by instability and infighting, he is likely to give in to the demands and completely sideline MCA and other non-Malay partners in BN.
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The current political situation in BN may encourage UMNO to be less accomodating in the current power-sharing agreement with the component parties. I believe it is a suicidal move if UMNO decided to be more domineering in the BN. The 'rakyat' are much more discerning and intelligent to be fooled. Think before your next move, UMNO !
They are not going to listen to Dr. M on this, he is the one who thought them about authoritarianism rather than persuasion. The father of undemocracy of the country..
UMNO is going to die.
Why are Malaysians so naive. Mahathir have cheated Malaysians using the component parties as a front.
So far Samy Vellu have not pulled an Ong Tee Keat PKFZ shit on him yet. Push this aneh far enough and see what happens. Who profited from the defective MRR2? Mahathir is telling Najib UMNO cannot withstand another PKFZ -like bomb. Moreover, without the component parties UMNO will have no whipping boy/s to make themselves look good in the eyes of the Malay ultras. It is obvious that Najib intends to do away with the component parties and reach out to the various ethnic communities directly. out of desperation to improve his standing with the Malays AND non-Malays. How will the natives of Sabah and Sarawak view this impending move by Najib. Not very well, I am sure. Moreover, abandoning the BN component parties is a move with no ‘gostan’ gear.
1Malaysia ?? just take Petronas for example ,where all the contractors, suppliers ,bussiness associates, etc are all belongs to umnoputras. Najib is a big liar.
Tweets help spread Umno Youth’s call
It was, perhaps, lucky that Umno Youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin's bold speech was broadcast live over Twitter on Wednesday, as its core message was barely covered by the Malay press the next day.
The Umno-linked Utusan Malaysia and Berita Harian gave scant coverage to his call to the Malays to leave behind their siege mentality and shift from a mindset of Malay dominance to Malay leadership.
They focused on other portions of his speech that proposed financial assistance for young families, and Umno Youth's plans to attract more members.
“Perhaps that message did not jive with them,” Khairy, 33, told The Straits Times.
The cold response indicates that his views may not have traction on the Malay ground, but he said he never expected it to be a simple task.
He said he would persevere, and was glad to have gotten his message across to young Malaysians through the new media.
On Wednesday, Khairy's aide Shahril Hamdan sent out more than 50 updates from the Umno Youth chief's speech to users of the free Twitter service that allows them to broadcast to others through the Internet.
The online media also gave Khairy wide publicity. This is partly due to the enthusiastic embrace of new technology by youth.
Umno Youth secretary Abdul Rahman Dahlan also sent out several tweets and updates on Facebook to tell his followers what Umno deputy president Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin was saying to the party's three wings on Tuesday night.
Khairy sent out more tweets yesterday on Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak's speech to the assembly yesterday.
But other than the Youth wing, Umno is still ambivalent about the new media.
The Young Women's Wing (Puteri), which could be expected to adapt to the new media, seemed subdued compared with the young men.
Puteri chief Rosnah Abdul Rashid Shirlin told The Straits Times that it had only started to use the new media.
Umno also continues to try to contain “unfair” media coverage by limiting access to online media.
Malaysiakini, The Malaysian Insider, Merdeka Review and The Nut Graph websites were denied press passes to the assembly.
Their journalists were barred from entering the halls to cover speeches and debates, but they could follow proceedings on live television feeds at the media centre.
Umno secretary-general Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor was quoted as saying by Malaysiakini last Friday: “We want the media to report in a fair and balanced manner. If you are not fair, if you sensationalise issues, you may not be allowed to attend.”
Umno's experiment with transparency two years ago had ended unhappily.
The live broadcast of the general assembly on television was stopped after it made Malaysians unhappy over the racially charged debate.
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The greated enemy of UMNO is itself!
All the talk about struggle should be about itself, not other races!!!
With Utusan like this, how to change?
The Umno-linked Utusan Malaysia and Berita Harian gave scant coverage to his call to the Malays to leave behind their siege mentality and shift from a mindset of Malay dominance to Malay leadership.
They focused on other portions of his speech that proposed financial assistance for young families, and Umno Youth's plans to attract more members.
“Perhaps that message did not jive with them,” Khairy, 33, told The Straits Times.
The cold response indicates that his views may not have traction on the Malay ground, but he said he never expected it to be a simple task.
He said he would persevere, and was glad to have gotten his message across to young Malaysians through the new media.
On Wednesday, Khairy's aide Shahril Hamdan sent out more than 50 updates from the Umno Youth chief's speech to users of the free Twitter service that allows them to broadcast to others through the Internet.
The online media also gave Khairy wide publicity. This is partly due to the enthusiastic embrace of new technology by youth.
Umno Youth secretary Abdul Rahman Dahlan also sent out several tweets and updates on Facebook to tell his followers what Umno deputy president Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin was saying to the party's three wings on Tuesday night.
Khairy sent out more tweets yesterday on Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak's speech to the assembly yesterday.
But other than the Youth wing, Umno is still ambivalent about the new media.
The Young Women's Wing (Puteri), which could be expected to adapt to the new media, seemed subdued compared with the young men.
Puteri chief Rosnah Abdul Rashid Shirlin told The Straits Times that it had only started to use the new media.
Umno also continues to try to contain “unfair” media coverage by limiting access to online media.
Malaysiakini, The Malaysian Insider, Merdeka Review and The Nut Graph websites were denied press passes to the assembly.
Their journalists were barred from entering the halls to cover speeches and debates, but they could follow proceedings on live television feeds at the media centre.
Umno secretary-general Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor was quoted as saying by Malaysiakini last Friday: “We want the media to report in a fair and balanced manner. If you are not fair, if you sensationalise issues, you may not be allowed to attend.”
Umno's experiment with transparency two years ago had ended unhappily.
The live broadcast of the general assembly on television was stopped after it made Malaysians unhappy over the racially charged debate.
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The greated enemy of UMNO is itself!
All the talk about struggle should be about itself, not other races!!!
With Utusan like this, how to change?
Ku Li says Umno reforms not good enough
While welcoming the constitutional changes in Umno, Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah said the amendments approved this week did not go far enough to check the influence of warlords and the prevalence of vote-buying.
He said the amendment to allow more delegates to vote for office bearers was not enough to check abuses such as vote-buying.
The Gua Musang MP pointed out that he had proposed three years ago that all Umno members be allowed to elect the party president, his deputy, the vice-presidents and supreme council members.
"All members should be allowed to vote not just the delegates, to check the influence of warlords and money politics," he said.
He pointed out that there was no quorum for the annual meetings in many branches because this was not an election year and no money was being handed out.
"The party needs to correct this attitude because the members are motivated by ‘lollies’ and money," he said.
He said Umno must also change the way it selects candidates for elections and should consider emulating the system in the United States where primaries are held.
The system allows members in a particular constituency to select leaders who they know will serve the people, he said.
"Umno should stop the nonsense, where the leadership selects candidates because it did not work during the March general election last year."
He said many previous leaders did not go to their constituencies and only returned when VIPs were around.
At the same time, he said, Umno should not stop at just constitutional reforms but change the attitude of leaders.
"People want change... credible leaders who are free of corruption, who have not done things which are scorned by the public," he said.
“We need a clean slate of people because that’s what is demanded by the people who are sick and tired of seeing bad leaders. Leaders whose records are blemished,” he added.
He said this did not happen during the time of Tunku Abdul Rahman, the country first prime minister, and the question needs to be asked why in this time and age we need such leaders to be our representatives.
He said the result of the Bagan Pinang by-election, where former Negri Sembilan Mentri Besar Tan Sri Isa Samad who was suspended from the party for money politics triumphed over the PAS candidate, can be interpreted in many ways.
He warned that while Umno may have won the battle, he was not sure if it could win the war which was the general election, judging by the sentiments of the people.
When all is said and done, he said he was still in Umno because he still has hope.
Tengku Razaleigh said he hopes common sense will prevail in the party.
“I would like to see the party improve itself,” he said.
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To change laws and amend is not good enough. Biggest problem in UMNO is not the consitution but rather the culture that has been built up for the past 30 years. This need to change if you want to see the real reform in overall BN
He said the amendment to allow more delegates to vote for office bearers was not enough to check abuses such as vote-buying.
The Gua Musang MP pointed out that he had proposed three years ago that all Umno members be allowed to elect the party president, his deputy, the vice-presidents and supreme council members.
"All members should be allowed to vote not just the delegates, to check the influence of warlords and money politics," he said.
He pointed out that there was no quorum for the annual meetings in many branches because this was not an election year and no money was being handed out.
"The party needs to correct this attitude because the members are motivated by ‘lollies’ and money," he said.
He said Umno must also change the way it selects candidates for elections and should consider emulating the system in the United States where primaries are held.
The system allows members in a particular constituency to select leaders who they know will serve the people, he said.
"Umno should stop the nonsense, where the leadership selects candidates because it did not work during the March general election last year."
He said many previous leaders did not go to their constituencies and only returned when VIPs were around.
At the same time, he said, Umno should not stop at just constitutional reforms but change the attitude of leaders.
"People want change... credible leaders who are free of corruption, who have not done things which are scorned by the public," he said.
“We need a clean slate of people because that’s what is demanded by the people who are sick and tired of seeing bad leaders. Leaders whose records are blemished,” he added.
He said this did not happen during the time of Tunku Abdul Rahman, the country first prime minister, and the question needs to be asked why in this time and age we need such leaders to be our representatives.
He said the result of the Bagan Pinang by-election, where former Negri Sembilan Mentri Besar Tan Sri Isa Samad who was suspended from the party for money politics triumphed over the PAS candidate, can be interpreted in many ways.
He warned that while Umno may have won the battle, he was not sure if it could win the war which was the general election, judging by the sentiments of the people.
When all is said and done, he said he was still in Umno because he still has hope.
Tengku Razaleigh said he hopes common sense will prevail in the party.
“I would like to see the party improve itself,” he said.
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To change laws and amend is not good enough. Biggest problem in UMNO is not the consitution but rather the culture that has been built up for the past 30 years. This need to change if you want to see the real reform in overall BN
Orders came from Putrajaya, says MACC intelligence man
The order to investigate Teoh Beng Hock’s state lawmaker boss for alleged graft came from Putrajaya, a Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) intelligence officer told the coroner's court today, hinting at a far more complex turn of events in Pakatan Rakyat-ruled Selangor.
Assistant enforcer Arman Alies told the court investigating the mysterious circumstances surrounding the political aide's death that he was with the national anti-graft body's intelligence division, based in Putrajaya.
He also said the Selangor branch had its own intelligence division and its office was on level 15 of Plaza Masalam, directly above the state office.
Teoh was the political secretary to first-term Selangor executive councillor Ean Yong Hian Wah. The MACC had called him in on July 15 as a witness to help investigate claims Ean Yong, who is also the DAP state assemblyman for Seri Kembangan, had misused his allowance meant to help residents in his constituency.
The 30-year-old Teoh was found mysteriously dead nine floors below outside the Selangor MACC office here the next day.
His family and employer claim foul play was involved.
Under questioning from lawyer Malik Imtiaz Sarwar, who is acting for the Selangor state government, Arman said he and three other officers from the MACC headquarters had received orders from Putrajaya to get involved with an operation investigating Pakatan Rakyat (PR) assemblymen in Selangor.
“So, orders from Putrajaya, not Selangor?” Malik asked.
Arman gave a firm yes.
His statement, however, seemed to contradict the Selangor MACC officer leading the investigations against PR.
Mohd Anuar Ismail had previously told the inquest that the PR probe was initiated by top anti-graft officials from Selangor.
In his testimony, he named Selangor MACC deputy director Hishamuddin Hashim and investigations unit chief Hairul Ilham Hamzah.
Arman had earlier told the coroner's court that there are two departments in MACC: one is investigations and the other, intelligence.
He explained that investigations officers carried out their work openly while the intelligence division officers do not record statements from witnesses nor take part in operations, and basically work as “supplementary officers” to the investigations division.
To further questions from Malik, the intelligence officer told the court that the office in Putrajaya was in charge of the whole country while the Selangor branch was only limited to work within the state.
Arman replied with an emphatic “yes” when Malik pressed on and asked if the operations involving Teoh’s role at the state level involved the Putrajaya office.
He had earlier testified that he got a phone call at about 8pm on July 15 from the Selangor head of investigations, Hairul, while having dinner with friends.
Hairul asked him to head to the Selangor MACC office on the 14th floor of Plaza Masalam but failed to disclose the details of what he wanted.
It was only in the office that Arman was given the order to look into four hardcover files said to be on Ean Yong and obtained from the district office and check for possible hanky-panky.
But he told the court he did not find any corresponding documents to match four invoices said to be printed from Teoh's laptop despite getting the latter's help to expedite the search.
Lawyer Gobind Singh Deo, representing Teoh's family, put it to Arman that he failed because he was “just trying your luck” and did not really know what to look for.
Arman disagreed.
He also denied Gobind's next suggestion that he was making use of the two hours with Teoh to “break him down psychologically” by continuously pressing him for answers.
Today's inquest ended with only Arman called to the witness box. Magistrate Azmil Muntapha Abas, who is acting as coroner in the inquest, ruled that there was no need to call Teoh's female housemate, Esther Lew Swee Yoong, to testify.
Teoh, from Malacca, had been lodging with Lew and her family at their house in Puchong since entering university here.
The lawyer for MACC, Datuk Abdul Razak Musa, had caused a stir when he argued that Lew's evidence was necessary to determine Teoh's possible state of mind, after insinuating that the relationship between the two may have been more than mere friends.
He noted that Teoh could have lodged with his elder brother Meng Kee, who was also a bachelor and lived in Shah Alam where Teoh worked, and pointed out that the public would be interested to know why he chose to live with a girl.
Gobind jumped to his feet and slammed Abdul Razak for his insensitive insinuations.
"The only person asking that question is you Datuk Razak," a disgusted Gobind charged.
"I don't think all of Malaysia is wondering why a man is sharing a house with a woman," he added.
Azmil, however, pointed out that even if Lew was called to testify on that, it would be a one-sided testimony because Teoh was dead.
The Evidence Act also explicitly barred a lopsided testimony from being entered in court, Azmil added.
He ruled that Lew's evidence on Teoh's state of mind could be put in through an interview with the psychiatrists and he could look at it from there.
The inquest will continue on Oct 21 with famed Thai forensic pathologist Dr Porntip Rojanasunan in the box.
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So politics is involved and not just a simple case of corruption?
Systematic and calculated drilling by our learned counsels will eventually unearth all the dirt. Wish Utusan Malaysia will report accurately for our Malay readers!
Assistant enforcer Arman Alies told the court investigating the mysterious circumstances surrounding the political aide's death that he was with the national anti-graft body's intelligence division, based in Putrajaya.
He also said the Selangor branch had its own intelligence division and its office was on level 15 of Plaza Masalam, directly above the state office.
Teoh was the political secretary to first-term Selangor executive councillor Ean Yong Hian Wah. The MACC had called him in on July 15 as a witness to help investigate claims Ean Yong, who is also the DAP state assemblyman for Seri Kembangan, had misused his allowance meant to help residents in his constituency.
The 30-year-old Teoh was found mysteriously dead nine floors below outside the Selangor MACC office here the next day.
His family and employer claim foul play was involved.
Under questioning from lawyer Malik Imtiaz Sarwar, who is acting for the Selangor state government, Arman said he and three other officers from the MACC headquarters had received orders from Putrajaya to get involved with an operation investigating Pakatan Rakyat (PR) assemblymen in Selangor.
“So, orders from Putrajaya, not Selangor?” Malik asked.
Arman gave a firm yes.
His statement, however, seemed to contradict the Selangor MACC officer leading the investigations against PR.
Mohd Anuar Ismail had previously told the inquest that the PR probe was initiated by top anti-graft officials from Selangor.
In his testimony, he named Selangor MACC deputy director Hishamuddin Hashim and investigations unit chief Hairul Ilham Hamzah.
Arman had earlier told the coroner's court that there are two departments in MACC: one is investigations and the other, intelligence.
He explained that investigations officers carried out their work openly while the intelligence division officers do not record statements from witnesses nor take part in operations, and basically work as “supplementary officers” to the investigations division.
To further questions from Malik, the intelligence officer told the court that the office in Putrajaya was in charge of the whole country while the Selangor branch was only limited to work within the state.
Arman replied with an emphatic “yes” when Malik pressed on and asked if the operations involving Teoh’s role at the state level involved the Putrajaya office.
He had earlier testified that he got a phone call at about 8pm on July 15 from the Selangor head of investigations, Hairul, while having dinner with friends.
Hairul asked him to head to the Selangor MACC office on the 14th floor of Plaza Masalam but failed to disclose the details of what he wanted.
It was only in the office that Arman was given the order to look into four hardcover files said to be on Ean Yong and obtained from the district office and check for possible hanky-panky.
But he told the court he did not find any corresponding documents to match four invoices said to be printed from Teoh's laptop despite getting the latter's help to expedite the search.
Lawyer Gobind Singh Deo, representing Teoh's family, put it to Arman that he failed because he was “just trying your luck” and did not really know what to look for.
Arman disagreed.
He also denied Gobind's next suggestion that he was making use of the two hours with Teoh to “break him down psychologically” by continuously pressing him for answers.
Today's inquest ended with only Arman called to the witness box. Magistrate Azmil Muntapha Abas, who is acting as coroner in the inquest, ruled that there was no need to call Teoh's female housemate, Esther Lew Swee Yoong, to testify.
Teoh, from Malacca, had been lodging with Lew and her family at their house in Puchong since entering university here.
The lawyer for MACC, Datuk Abdul Razak Musa, had caused a stir when he argued that Lew's evidence was necessary to determine Teoh's possible state of mind, after insinuating that the relationship between the two may have been more than mere friends.
He noted that Teoh could have lodged with his elder brother Meng Kee, who was also a bachelor and lived in Shah Alam where Teoh worked, and pointed out that the public would be interested to know why he chose to live with a girl.
Gobind jumped to his feet and slammed Abdul Razak for his insensitive insinuations.
"The only person asking that question is you Datuk Razak," a disgusted Gobind charged.
"I don't think all of Malaysia is wondering why a man is sharing a house with a woman," he added.
Azmil, however, pointed out that even if Lew was called to testify on that, it would be a one-sided testimony because Teoh was dead.
The Evidence Act also explicitly barred a lopsided testimony from being entered in court, Azmil added.
He ruled that Lew's evidence on Teoh's state of mind could be put in through an interview with the psychiatrists and he could look at it from there.
The inquest will continue on Oct 21 with famed Thai forensic pathologist Dr Porntip Rojanasunan in the box.
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So politics is involved and not just a simple case of corruption?
Systematic and calculated drilling by our learned counsels will eventually unearth all the dirt. Wish Utusan Malaysia will report accurately for our Malay readers!
15 October 2009
Khairy urges Malays to end siege mentality
Khairy Jamaluddin urged Umno Youth members today to abandon its communal outlook and siege mentality, because constitutional provisions did not make Malays special.
He said instead that “it is the performance and achievements of Malays that will determine if we are” special or extraordinary.
“My dream is to one day see local institutions of higher education filled with Malays not because of quotas, but because Malays are there based on merit.
“Whilst we protect the quotas now, let us not forget that they are only supposed to aid us, and not be a lifeline for the Malays unto perpetuity. The Malay vision is not about defending quotas
A Malaysian agenda for Khairy?... Umno youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin, delivers his keynote address during its annual conference in Kuala Lumpur today.
indefinitely, but to stand proud seeing Malays succeed on their own strengths.”
In his first policy speech as Umno Youth Chief, Khairy said Umno should move beyond the comfort zones of a communal party perspective.
He also appeared to be stopping the wing’s practice of pushing the party to the far right, adding that the Malay nationalist party cannot afford to be ideologically inconsistent.
“We are now at a crossroads of our cause, where we can choose to remain on the same path with the same style and methods.
“We can continue with the chest-thumping rhetoric, warning other races never to challenge this or that,” said Khairy to some 800 Umno Youth delegates.
“This option is easy, and may promise a measure of popularity within the party. But, we must ask ourselves, is this what Malaysians — Malays included — really want from Umno,” he added.
Khairy who won the Youth chief contest despite facing two opponents who were campaigning for Umno to be more exclusive, also told the wing’s delegates to embrace Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s message of unity.
“In this new context, do we want the President to speak about a transformation — removing barriers between races and communities — whilst Umno Youth stubbornly refuses to change, and instead, continues to voice something different from the President?” asked Khairy.
They can't get enough 1 Malaysia... Umno youth leaders make the sign associated with the main drive of their party president, Datuk Seri Najib Razak.
However Khairy said that Umno Youth will not abandon the Malay agenda but at the same time will assume the responsibility of leading other races too.
“Some may wonder if we should fight for other communities if they question our position as Malays. It is here that our leadership credentials will be tested,” he said.
“As the group of people given the responsibility and privilege to lead, Malays cannot simply follow the common beat — that would not be leadership. Instead, as leaders, Malays must rise above and go the extra mile,” he said.
He also called on Umno Youth leaders to get rid of their siege mentality and to look beyond Article 153 of the Federal Constitution that guarantees the special position of the Malays, adding that it is almost impossible to remove the constitutional provision.
“I speak of a generational challenge because for too long, Malays and Umno have been caught in a mindset that is negative and overly defensive,” said Khairy.
“We feel as though we are constantly under siege, and all our efforts appear to be channelled towards protecting the Malay special position. I urge Malays, beginning with the youth, to get out of this siege mentality,” he said.
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The people undersiege are not the malays. Don't fool us. It is just like the rich who complain that they are earning 10% less when they have been making millions.
Look around us, look at the civi services, look at the institutioons of higher learnings, look at thje scholarship awards,look at the issue of licenses, look at, look at, look at..........
UMNO malays want to keep it and still eat it. It is us who have been discriminated on and deprived for all of 25 years and if we are still alive it is because we have fight hard amidst the grioss discrimination and manipulation against us.
It is difficult to love ths country where the government have control over the judiciary and the many institution which are racialist if not racist. You have made this country into a fuck country when it need not be.
Well, well.
I must admit that Malaysians are extraordinarily naive!
I just wonder how anyone can still believe what any UMNO/BN politician says!
Does anyone knows or realises that these are the trouble makers who told the Malays that they have not only lost the economic edge but also the political edge as well. And that only UMNO/BN can "struggle" for them? Struggle? Most probably, they are struggling on how to divide the loot! Your tax money!
Also, have you all forgotten about the keris waving incidents at their previous AGM?
Have you forgotten all the scams and scandals that have dogged this country for the past fifty over years?
You are all so forgiving that you are going to let them pawn the country in which every CITIZEN has a stake?
Big speech, big applause too.
But wait a minute? No mention about corruption? Not a word of anguish re: politik rasuah? No remorse for the likes of Isa, Ali Rustam, Khir Toyo, Muhammad Muhammad Taib - and of course - Khairy himself - that continue to exist within the UMNO circles?
Hmmm. What's missing here? Talk about change, but do not wish to address the crux of the issue that's needed to bring about change & reform - and that is to get serious with corruption.
You know what? This kinda reminds me of the time when one Dr Mahathir made friendly overtures to the Chinese educationists, in hope of their support in the 99 GE. And once they'd given that support, the Old Man went on to label them "communists".
That's the UMNO we're talking about.
PS - Any action on Awang Selamat ah?
He said instead that “it is the performance and achievements of Malays that will determine if we are” special or extraordinary.
“My dream is to one day see local institutions of higher education filled with Malays not because of quotas, but because Malays are there based on merit.
“Whilst we protect the quotas now, let us not forget that they are only supposed to aid us, and not be a lifeline for the Malays unto perpetuity. The Malay vision is not about defending quotas
A Malaysian agenda for Khairy?... Umno youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin, delivers his keynote address during its annual conference in Kuala Lumpur today.
indefinitely, but to stand proud seeing Malays succeed on their own strengths.”
In his first policy speech as Umno Youth Chief, Khairy said Umno should move beyond the comfort zones of a communal party perspective.
He also appeared to be stopping the wing’s practice of pushing the party to the far right, adding that the Malay nationalist party cannot afford to be ideologically inconsistent.
“We are now at a crossroads of our cause, where we can choose to remain on the same path with the same style and methods.
“We can continue with the chest-thumping rhetoric, warning other races never to challenge this or that,” said Khairy to some 800 Umno Youth delegates.
“This option is easy, and may promise a measure of popularity within the party. But, we must ask ourselves, is this what Malaysians — Malays included — really want from Umno,” he added.
Khairy who won the Youth chief contest despite facing two opponents who were campaigning for Umno to be more exclusive, also told the wing’s delegates to embrace Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s message of unity.
“In this new context, do we want the President to speak about a transformation — removing barriers between races and communities — whilst Umno Youth stubbornly refuses to change, and instead, continues to voice something different from the President?” asked Khairy.
They can't get enough 1 Malaysia... Umno youth leaders make the sign associated with the main drive of their party president, Datuk Seri Najib Razak.
However Khairy said that Umno Youth will not abandon the Malay agenda but at the same time will assume the responsibility of leading other races too.
“Some may wonder if we should fight for other communities if they question our position as Malays. It is here that our leadership credentials will be tested,” he said.
“As the group of people given the responsibility and privilege to lead, Malays cannot simply follow the common beat — that would not be leadership. Instead, as leaders, Malays must rise above and go the extra mile,” he said.
He also called on Umno Youth leaders to get rid of their siege mentality and to look beyond Article 153 of the Federal Constitution that guarantees the special position of the Malays, adding that it is almost impossible to remove the constitutional provision.
“I speak of a generational challenge because for too long, Malays and Umno have been caught in a mindset that is negative and overly defensive,” said Khairy.
“We feel as though we are constantly under siege, and all our efforts appear to be channelled towards protecting the Malay special position. I urge Malays, beginning with the youth, to get out of this siege mentality,” he said.
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The people undersiege are not the malays. Don't fool us. It is just like the rich who complain that they are earning 10% less when they have been making millions.
Look around us, look at the civi services, look at the institutioons of higher learnings, look at thje scholarship awards,look at the issue of licenses, look at, look at, look at..........
UMNO malays want to keep it and still eat it. It is us who have been discriminated on and deprived for all of 25 years and if we are still alive it is because we have fight hard amidst the grioss discrimination and manipulation against us.
It is difficult to love ths country where the government have control over the judiciary and the many institution which are racialist if not racist. You have made this country into a fuck country when it need not be.
Well, well.
I must admit that Malaysians are extraordinarily naive!
I just wonder how anyone can still believe what any UMNO/BN politician says!
Does anyone knows or realises that these are the trouble makers who told the Malays that they have not only lost the economic edge but also the political edge as well. And that only UMNO/BN can "struggle" for them? Struggle? Most probably, they are struggling on how to divide the loot! Your tax money!
Also, have you all forgotten about the keris waving incidents at their previous AGM?
Have you forgotten all the scams and scandals that have dogged this country for the past fifty over years?
You are all so forgiving that you are going to let them pawn the country in which every CITIZEN has a stake?
Big speech, big applause too.
But wait a minute? No mention about corruption? Not a word of anguish re: politik rasuah? No remorse for the likes of Isa, Ali Rustam, Khir Toyo, Muhammad Muhammad Taib - and of course - Khairy himself - that continue to exist within the UMNO circles?
Hmmm. What's missing here? Talk about change, but do not wish to address the crux of the issue that's needed to bring about change & reform - and that is to get serious with corruption.
You know what? This kinda reminds me of the time when one Dr Mahathir made friendly overtures to the Chinese educationists, in hope of their support in the 99 GE. And once they'd given that support, the Old Man went on to label them "communists".
That's the UMNO we're talking about.
PS - Any action on Awang Selamat ah?
Teoh’s family, friends told to undergo psychiatric tests
Seven family members and friends of Teoh Beng Hock received notices today to go for psychiatric evaluations at the Selayang Hospital on October 19.
Family lawyer Gobind Singh Deo said he received the notices from a police investigating officer today.
He said among those who have to go for the evaluation is Teoh’s wife Soh Cher Wei, 28, his parents, siblings and best friend.
The Coroner’s Court holding an inquest into the death of the political aide, whose body was found on the fifth floor landing of Plaza Masalam on July 16, ordered the evaluation to be done, to determine his state of mind before he died.
The 30-year-old political secretary to Selangor state lawmaker Ean Yong Hian Wah had been questioned by Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) officers at their Selangor Headquarters located on the 14th floor of the building the night before he died.
Gobind said the witnesses had been told to go to hospital between 9.30am and 12.30pm.
Magistrate Azmil Muntapha Abas, who is acting as coroner in the inquest, had ordered the tests to be carried out by two government experts in forensic psychiatry.
Dr Noor Hayati Ali from the Health Ministry and Dr Badi’ah Yahya, a consultant forensic psychiatrist with Hospital Permai in Johor Baru, have been appointed to interview the witnesses.
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WHAT!!!!!! Those who love TBH need to go for psychiatric tests. Can somebody please tell me why. The ones that need to be tested immediately are the Deputy director and those investigating officers involved in TBH' case. Future successful applicants of MACC should also go for the psychiatric tests
Family lawyer Gobind Singh Deo said he received the notices from a police investigating officer today.
He said among those who have to go for the evaluation is Teoh’s wife Soh Cher Wei, 28, his parents, siblings and best friend.
The Coroner’s Court holding an inquest into the death of the political aide, whose body was found on the fifth floor landing of Plaza Masalam on July 16, ordered the evaluation to be done, to determine his state of mind before he died.
The 30-year-old political secretary to Selangor state lawmaker Ean Yong Hian Wah had been questioned by Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) officers at their Selangor Headquarters located on the 14th floor of the building the night before he died.
Gobind said the witnesses had been told to go to hospital between 9.30am and 12.30pm.
Magistrate Azmil Muntapha Abas, who is acting as coroner in the inquest, had ordered the tests to be carried out by two government experts in forensic psychiatry.
Dr Noor Hayati Ali from the Health Ministry and Dr Badi’ah Yahya, a consultant forensic psychiatrist with Hospital Permai in Johor Baru, have been appointed to interview the witnesses.
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WHAT!!!!!! Those who love TBH need to go for psychiatric tests. Can somebody please tell me why. The ones that need to be tested immediately are the Deputy director and those investigating officers involved in TBH' case. Future successful applicants of MACC should also go for the psychiatric tests
Nothing to stop witnesses wandering around MACC HQ
A senior officer with the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) told the Coroner’s Court today there were no controls at their Selangor headquarters to keep track of the whereabouts of witnesses after their statements were recorded.
State MACC director of investigations Hairul Ilham Hamzah, who was testifying at the inquest into the death of Teoh Beng Hock, initially agreed that the office was a restricted zone.
He was responding to a question by lawyer Rajpal Singh, who is holding a watching brief for the Bar Council.
However when asked if a witnesses could walk around after their statements are taken, Hairul said “there were no controls”.
He had earlier testified that both investigating officer Mohd Anuar Ismail and he had conducted an unsuccessful search for Teoh at the MACC office after they found his bag there, on the morning of July 16.
Teoh was later found dead on the fifth floor that afternoon.
MACC maintains Teoh was released after his statement was taken earlier that morning.
“I want to know how a witness can be released to do what he likes in the area. There must be some procedure, a witness cannot play hide and seek in the MACC office.” said Rajpal.
Hairul said security guards at the front counter could have let him out, adding, however, that they did not check with the guard because his shift ended at 8am.
He said they had checked with the receptionist, who replaced the guard at the front counter, whether she had seen Teoh leaving.
Hairul agreed that Teoh could not have left the office by himself and would have to go through the guard or the receptionist.
He admitted that he did not check what time Teoh had finished giving his statement that morning.
He also denied assertions by Rajpal that they had searched the area because Teoh had not gone out the front door.
Earlier, Hairul told the court he had left the headquarters at 3am, after leaving instructions for his men to record Teoh’s statement.
Hairul returned to Plaza Masalam, where the state MACC headquarters is located, at 8.25 am and was on his way to brief Selangor Deputy Director Hishamuddin Hashim when he was informed that Teoh’s bag was still on the premises.
During questioning by lawyer Gobind Singh, Hairul said he did not check the contents of the bag and was not sure if Mohd Anuar did.
Although it was not normal for witnesses to leave their bags after they were released, he did not try to contact Teoh because, he said, it did not cross his mind.
He said he did not have Teoh’s phone number but Gobind pointed out that the number was on his statement which MACC recorded, and handed the sheet of paper to Hairul.
Gobind said Hairul could have obtained the number if he wanted to, and Hairul agreed.
“So if you really wanted to find him, you could have. I put it to you that you already knew what happened to him and the evidence is concocted,” said Gobind
Hairul said he did not agree.
He said that Mohd Anuar came to him in a state of panic at 2pm and asked him to go down to the 5th floor, where Teoh’s body had been found.
Hairul said he panicked and his mind went blank for the rest of the day and he did not know what to do.
Earlier, during his testimony, Hishamuddin had told the court that he was briefed about what happened by Hairul and Mohd Anuar.
Gobind said the incident would have left a strong impression on Hairul, who should be able to remember most of what happened.
“If there was an explanation by Anuar to Hishamuddin about this incident, you would have never forgotten it. It would have stuck in your mind the rest of your life.”
Hairul replied: “Maybe.”
But Gobind pointed out that Hairul had told the court his mind went blank while Mohd Anuar could not possibly know what had happened since he had testified that he was asleep in the surau most of the night.
“So what kind of briefing could you have given? Both of you could not offer an explanation. You both didn’t see him leave.”
Gobind said Teoh’s bag, handphone and car keys were left behind and there was a good chance he did not leave
Hairul said he did not know but agreed that, as an investigator, he was interested to know how Teoh died.
However, Gobind contended the reason he could not remember was that there was no explanation and that MACC was responsible for Teoh’s death.
Hairul disagreed.
MACC legal director Datuk Abdul Razak Musa also cause a stir in court today when he asked to tender Teoh’s financial records, including bank statements as evidence.
Abdul Razak argued that the records would assist the court in determining Teoh’s state of mind.
Both Gobind and Rajpal strongly objected to the move.
“How is it relevant to his state of mind? Is a poor man more likely to jump off a building?” asked Gobind.
“Is he really taking the position that because Teoh was poor, he committed suicide? Can we be clear on that position?” asked Gobind,
Abdul Razak argued what Teoh earned was relevant and the records were allowed to be tendered as evidence.
The inquest continues on Friday.
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I am amazed by the statements of each progression on MACC people. There are so much inconsistencies that it looks like a different agency for every one. I still think there are people lying. The good intention of MACC is very much in doubt.
Seven family members and friends of Teoh Beng Hock received notices today to go for psychiatric evaluations at the Selayang Hospital on October 19. HOW ABOUT THE ENTIRE TEAM OF MACC OFFICERS ? MACC officers should subject to lie detector test for lying to the coroner....different times saying different story...OR EQUALLY MACC OFFICERS SHOULD SUBJECT TO TEST BY TANJONG RAMBUTAN HOSPITAL BAHAGIA FOR INSANITY......Or similarly treatment should be given to all the families of MACC officers should be sent to Tanjong Rambutan for brain operations to remove all UMNOism......
State MACC director of investigations Hairul Ilham Hamzah, who was testifying at the inquest into the death of Teoh Beng Hock, initially agreed that the office was a restricted zone.
He was responding to a question by lawyer Rajpal Singh, who is holding a watching brief for the Bar Council.
However when asked if a witnesses could walk around after their statements are taken, Hairul said “there were no controls”.
He had earlier testified that both investigating officer Mohd Anuar Ismail and he had conducted an unsuccessful search for Teoh at the MACC office after they found his bag there, on the morning of July 16.
Teoh was later found dead on the fifth floor that afternoon.
MACC maintains Teoh was released after his statement was taken earlier that morning.
“I want to know how a witness can be released to do what he likes in the area. There must be some procedure, a witness cannot play hide and seek in the MACC office.” said Rajpal.
Hairul said security guards at the front counter could have let him out, adding, however, that they did not check with the guard because his shift ended at 8am.
He said they had checked with the receptionist, who replaced the guard at the front counter, whether she had seen Teoh leaving.
Hairul agreed that Teoh could not have left the office by himself and would have to go through the guard or the receptionist.
He admitted that he did not check what time Teoh had finished giving his statement that morning.
He also denied assertions by Rajpal that they had searched the area because Teoh had not gone out the front door.
Earlier, Hairul told the court he had left the headquarters at 3am, after leaving instructions for his men to record Teoh’s statement.
Hairul returned to Plaza Masalam, where the state MACC headquarters is located, at 8.25 am and was on his way to brief Selangor Deputy Director Hishamuddin Hashim when he was informed that Teoh’s bag was still on the premises.
During questioning by lawyer Gobind Singh, Hairul said he did not check the contents of the bag and was not sure if Mohd Anuar did.
Although it was not normal for witnesses to leave their bags after they were released, he did not try to contact Teoh because, he said, it did not cross his mind.
He said he did not have Teoh’s phone number but Gobind pointed out that the number was on his statement which MACC recorded, and handed the sheet of paper to Hairul.
Gobind said Hairul could have obtained the number if he wanted to, and Hairul agreed.
“So if you really wanted to find him, you could have. I put it to you that you already knew what happened to him and the evidence is concocted,” said Gobind
Hairul said he did not agree.
He said that Mohd Anuar came to him in a state of panic at 2pm and asked him to go down to the 5th floor, where Teoh’s body had been found.
Hairul said he panicked and his mind went blank for the rest of the day and he did not know what to do.
Earlier, during his testimony, Hishamuddin had told the court that he was briefed about what happened by Hairul and Mohd Anuar.
Gobind said the incident would have left a strong impression on Hairul, who should be able to remember most of what happened.
“If there was an explanation by Anuar to Hishamuddin about this incident, you would have never forgotten it. It would have stuck in your mind the rest of your life.”
Hairul replied: “Maybe.”
But Gobind pointed out that Hairul had told the court his mind went blank while Mohd Anuar could not possibly know what had happened since he had testified that he was asleep in the surau most of the night.
“So what kind of briefing could you have given? Both of you could not offer an explanation. You both didn’t see him leave.”
Gobind said Teoh’s bag, handphone and car keys were left behind and there was a good chance he did not leave
Hairul said he did not know but agreed that, as an investigator, he was interested to know how Teoh died.
However, Gobind contended the reason he could not remember was that there was no explanation and that MACC was responsible for Teoh’s death.
Hairul disagreed.
MACC legal director Datuk Abdul Razak Musa also cause a stir in court today when he asked to tender Teoh’s financial records, including bank statements as evidence.
Abdul Razak argued that the records would assist the court in determining Teoh’s state of mind.
Both Gobind and Rajpal strongly objected to the move.
“How is it relevant to his state of mind? Is a poor man more likely to jump off a building?” asked Gobind.
“Is he really taking the position that because Teoh was poor, he committed suicide? Can we be clear on that position?” asked Gobind,
Abdul Razak argued what Teoh earned was relevant and the records were allowed to be tendered as evidence.
The inquest continues on Friday.
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I am amazed by the statements of each progression on MACC people. There are so much inconsistencies that it looks like a different agency for every one. I still think there are people lying. The good intention of MACC is very much in doubt.
Seven family members and friends of Teoh Beng Hock received notices today to go for psychiatric evaluations at the Selayang Hospital on October 19. HOW ABOUT THE ENTIRE TEAM OF MACC OFFICERS ? MACC officers should subject to lie detector test for lying to the coroner....different times saying different story...OR EQUALLY MACC OFFICERS SHOULD SUBJECT TO TEST BY TANJONG RAMBUTAN HOSPITAL BAHAGIA FOR INSANITY......Or similarly treatment should be given to all the families of MACC officers should be sent to Tanjong Rambutan for brain operations to remove all UMNOism......
Umno Youth tones down in line with reform pitch
There was an air of unfamiliarity about the Umno Youth annual general assembly here today. The signature race rhetoric was missing, the hard-line speeches were nowhere to be found.
The most radical and far right element of Umno, the wing that has never failed in the past to court controversy with their hawkish spirit in upholding their “Malay supremacy” ideals, was kept in check today.
Ultimately, it was a well rehearsed and orchestrated attempt to present a softer face of a party trying to reform itself.
Speeches from the wing’s delegates at today’s event were particularly cordial and constructive.
Apart from minor complaints here and there, delegates spoke on how the party should be strengthened, how the party should do more to approach the young, to make the youth wing become the number one choice for the country’s youth.
Just weeks ago, there were fierce calls by divisional representatives, including youth leaders, to reclaim the seats in Malay majority constituencies that were given to non-Malay component parties. The Umno AGM would have been the best platform to press home this demand.
“This is not the youth wing that I know, they seemed tame, as if they were invisibly gagged and told to tone down,” said a party member who did not want to be named.
“What is going on?” asked the member in jest, adding that he had come to today’s assembly with high hopes of listening to “fiery speeches” from the youth delegates.
The subdued affair appeared in line with Youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin’s call for a change in attitude, to put a stop to the wing’s practice of taking a more radical stand than that of the main party’s leadership.
The tone also appeared to be in line with Umno president Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s intention of sending a message of reform through the party’s assembly.
Tomorrow, delegates will vote on the proposed constitutional amendments that would remove the quota for those vying for the party’s top posts and make Umno more democratic.
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For over 5 decades of support given, UMNO BN could only afford continuous dishonour & disgrace !!!
Government machinery are all serving as a tool for UMNO BN !!!
From executive & Public services & civil servants to judiciary's CJ Zaki Azmi, AG, Police IGP, MACC, EC, MCMC and even exploiting the Monarchy, UMNO held it all from top to bottom & inside out!!!
Corrupted, Racist, Incompetent & Low Quality UMNO BN leaders & thier supporters should be ashamed of themselves !!!!
Cronyism, nepotism, racism, corruption, power abuses, mis-management, money politics, hypocrisy, double standard........
From highway tolls(10% hikes every 3 yrs), Angkasawan, Mark-up defence spendings, Eurocopters, Submarines, Tenaga IPP, BMF, fuel prices sudden heights, mega white elephant projects, man-made lakes & bridges in Putrajaya, crooked bridge, bailouts, PKFZ RM12bil, AIMST, Racist UMNO paper UTUSAN, Zakaria Deros & his Palace, VK Lingam, Biro Tata Negara, Racist Ahmad Ismail, Snake Racist Hamidah Osman, money politicians & Ali Rustam, Balkis, Khir Toyo & Disneyland, C4 Altantuya, robbing Natives' lands, UMNO Crony Contractors, Parliament & Palace of Justice roof leakage, MRRII cracks ...... .....etc....
Is this muted pitch an actual reform or they are told to close their lips but continue to do the same? What we really need to get from UMNO is the actual deed. Once Malaysians can see with their own eyes that UMNO is no longer racist and no longer practice Malay supremacy and more inclusive and fair to all Malaysians then that will be time to say that they have reformed. At the moment, it is just a showcase with no deed yet.
Sincerity counts in wanting to create harmony. Let us see how long this 'sandiwara' will hold up. I call it 'sandiwara' because nothing so far can convince the non-Malay voters that all this new tone is not just political expediency!
13 October 2009
Perak Assembly on Oct 28
Ngeh now knows, but what will PR do in response?
The next “official” Perak assembly sitting will convene on October 28.
Pakatan Rakyat’s (PR) former senior state executive councillor Datuk Ngeh Koo Ham confirmed late last night that several state assemblymen had received their “notices to attend” the assembly from Barisan Nasional-endorsed Speaker Datuk R. Ganesan.
The notices, which had apparently reached them earlier yesterday evening, confirmed that the meeting would convene on Oct 28, as Ngeh had earlier alleged.
What remains to be seen now is PR’s next strategic move in this game of tug-of-war between them and the BN, which has been playing out for an exhausting nine months since February.
PR, however, has been less cryptic about their next planned step and is expected to attend the sitting, not by heeding Ganesan’s instructions but those of their own “Speaker”, Tronoh assemblyman V. Sivakumar.
When asked if the PR planned to attend the Oct 28 sitting, Ngeh said:
“We will follow instructions from Sivakumar and will not heed those of illegal Speaker Ganesan.”
This could mean Sivakumar may counter Ganesan’s “notice to attend” by issuing one of his own, with the same date and time, to allow the PR representatives into the assembly hall come Oct 28.
One PR assemblyman told The Malaysian Insider that it was clearly the “only way” to be physically present inside the state assembly hall, without conceding to the BN.
PR had earlier declared that they do not recognise Ganesan as the state’s legal Speaker and would therefore not abide by any of his instructions.
The state assemblyman said the main contention about the next hearing was that the PR representatives needed to find a way to get into the hall and stop whatever proceedings the BN had planned.
“This seems the best or only way (getting Sivakumar to send out his own notice). At least then they (BN) cannot say that we do not have the authority to be present inside. Unlike Sept 2, they cannot stop us from entering but it is up to us to say which notice we are adhering to,” he said.
On Sept 2, the Perak PR attempted to convene an assembly sitting but were barred from entering the State Secretariat by the police and government officials, forcing them to hold the sitting in a hotel.
The next state assembly sitting is a crucial one for the Perak government as the Mentri Besar is scheduled to propose and table the state’s Budget.
It is understood, however, that the PR, through its own “budget committee” also has a Budget of their own prepared.
Which government will get to table the Budget, however, is a separate matter altogether for in all probability, chaos could well prevent any proceeding from taking place.
“How can anything happen when we have two state governments in the hall and two Speakers?” said the state assemblyman.
Still, should either party push their Budgets through, it is clear that BN still has the majority vote with 31 lawmakers on their side and 28 for PR.
If the May 7 sitting is any indication, then Oct 28 could very well be a fruitless sitting; one where anarchy would reign within the walls of the state assembly hall once again.
Without tabling and passing the state’s Budget, Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Dr Zambry Abd Kadir would not be able to proceed with the state’s administration.
Meanwhile, BN’s senior executive councillor Datuk Hamidah Osman scoffed at PR’s plans to gatecrash the state assembly.
“And here I thought they simply would not even attend the sitting,” she joked when contacted recently.
Hamidah said that PR should quit with their nitpicking and start doing some work for a change.
“They just love to start fights. They always want to start trouble,” she said.
She added that the BN had no fear about PR’s proposed alternative budget for it was clear the latter coalition did not have enough representatives in the House to pass it.
“Who is going to authorise it? We have the majority,” she said.
When questioned about what would happen if the PR representatives caused enough trouble in the state assembly hall to prevent Zambry from even presenting BN’s budget, she laughed and coyly said:
“Well, we have our ways of passing the budget. Just like how we had our way of appointing our Speaker, we have our way of passing the budget.”
She added that the BN’s budget had scores of good announcements to benefit Perakians.
During the tumultuous May 7 sitting, BN’s Speaker Ganesan was appointed after Sivakumar was forcibly dragged from the Speaker’s chair.
In the fracas, DAP defector and assembly Deputy Speaker Hee Yit Foong took over proceedings and allowed the BN assemblymen to nominate, second and vote Ganesan into position.
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The Perak fiasco, Teoh Boon Hock (RIP), Kugan case, The cow head incident, MCA mess and MIC drama and PKFZ blow out.
BN is so finished in the next elections
Perakian is sick with Zamri and Hamidah, both BN goons is so arrogant, but nevermind, next election we will teach both of them lesson.
Its OK for JJ to be with Paul Wolfowitz..
Paul Wolfowitz, one of America’s foremost hawks against Iraq.He was the chief architect of the US invasion of Iraq, purportedly to seize its oil assets. Thus, positioning America in that oil-rich region to dominate and control the area for the American strategic interests.
It was wrong for Anwar to be friendly with Paul Wolfwitz says UMNO and her band of 'penyamun'. For this the UMNO 'penyamun' brands Anwar as agent of America and a traitor to the Malays.
But, its OK if it an UMNO guy.......look below who is with Paul Wolfwitz now.....oops our new Ambassador to US, the "raba-raba" MP from Rompin, is already sleeping with the enemy.
Helloooooo.......'penyamun-penyamun' UMNO what say you now? agen Amerika atau pengkhianat bangsa Melayu?
This guy had allegedly fondled a woman backside sometime back. The woman lodged a police report and later made a statutory declaration to cancel the police report. For his bravery he was appointed 1Malaysia's Ambassador to the USA.
Cakap tak serupa bikin...........
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Its well known UMNO are full of hypocrites. The minister wants Malaysians to send their children to national schools,while their children study in Britain,Australia and New Zealand.
They curse the opposition govt.for giving land to the chinese and indians, but its OK for UMNO to give away an island(Pangkor),a mountain(Genting)and a hill(Bukit Tinggi)to 3 rich towkay cina.
UMNO talks about ketuanan Melayu,but deny the payment of royalty money meant for the poor Malays in Terengganu, only to be pocketed by UMNO and their band of thieves.
I can only say this to UMNO......ptuihhhhh!!!!!!
It was wrong for Anwar to be friendly with Paul Wolfwitz says UMNO and her band of 'penyamun'. For this the UMNO 'penyamun' brands Anwar as agent of America and a traitor to the Malays.
But, its OK if it an UMNO guy.......look below who is with Paul Wolfwitz now.....oops our new Ambassador to US, the "raba-raba" MP from Rompin, is already sleeping with the enemy.
Helloooooo.......'penyamun-penyamun' UMNO what say you now? agen Amerika atau pengkhianat bangsa Melayu?
This guy had allegedly fondled a woman backside sometime back. The woman lodged a police report and later made a statutory declaration to cancel the police report. For his bravery he was appointed 1Malaysia's Ambassador to the USA.
Cakap tak serupa bikin...........
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Its well known UMNO are full of hypocrites. The minister wants Malaysians to send their children to national schools,while their children study in Britain,Australia and New Zealand.
They curse the opposition govt.for giving land to the chinese and indians, but its OK for UMNO to give away an island(Pangkor),a mountain(Genting)and a hill(Bukit Tinggi)to 3 rich towkay cina.
UMNO talks about ketuanan Melayu,but deny the payment of royalty money meant for the poor Malays in Terengganu, only to be pocketed by UMNO and their band of thieves.
I can only say this to UMNO......ptuihhhhh!!!!!!
12 October 2009
Dr Mahathir: BN victory expected
Dr Mahathir Mohamad said he had expected BN to retain the Bagan Pinang state seat as it was the coalition's stronghold.
"I am very happy. From the beginning I had predicted we (BN) will win as that is our area. Isa (Mohd Isa Abdul Samad) is strong there and the Indians also supported him.
"I believed he would win although another BN candidate would also have won. Now we have to look after other areas.
"We can win in opposition areas," the former premier told reporters after attending a Hari Raya function organised by the Pusat Bandar Cempaka Umno branch here on Sunday night.
He reminded party members not to be swayed by the win to the point of forgetting to discharge the duties that they had been entrusted with.
"If Umno becomes very passionate with the win in one place while losing in other areas...if we lose (sight of) our responsibilities, I believe that in the coming general election maybe we will not achieve a good victory or we will not win," Mahathir said.
Asked if the win in Bagan Pinang was a sign that Umno was accepted in the area, he said it was a fact that the party had support in the area.
Isa's contributions not forgotten
In Port Dickson last night, Umno vice-president Hishammuddin Hussein said among the factors that contributed to BN's win were the personality and leadership of the former Negeri Sembilan MB which endeared him to the constituents.
He said the win also proved that the voters in the area did not forget the services and contributions of Mohd Isa, who is also the Teluk Kemang Umno division chief.
"Their support has been translated into votes although various allegations were thrown at him until polling day," he told reporters after the announcement of the by-election result.
Umno secretary-general Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor said the bigger majority-win indicated that Isa and BN were accepted by the multiracial voters in the constituency.
He said the victory was made even more meaningful with the good non-Malay support, especially from the Indian voters, with all the ballot boxes favouring BN.
Wanita Umno chief Shahrizat Abdul Jalil regarded BN's victory in Bagan Pinang as a victory for the people who wanted peace and stability in the country.
Meanwhile, Puteri Umno head Rosnah Abdul Rashid Shirlin hoped the BN leadership would maintain the victorious momentum in Bagan Pinang for BN to perform better in the future.
She told Bernama that BN should not be complacent after the win, but instead be spurred to work harder to secure victory in the next general election.
In the Bagan Pinang state by-election today, BN defended the seat when Mohd Isa defeated Pas' Zulkefly Mohamad Omar with a majority of 5,435 votes.
Mohd Isa garnered 8,013 votes against Zulkefly's 2,578 votes.
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What happened to the tainted candidate story, Mahathir? Now you twist your tongue to avoid being boycotted by UMNO? Wahahaha! Typical UMNO man! Unprincipled, corrupted and full of sh*t! Wahahaha!Oh yeah! Congratulations to the voters too! You just showed your support to corruption! May God save you all now!
OK we accept the fact that BN has beeen accepted by the non malays.
Let us try in Perak.
Ask the Behrang assy. man to resign and will try one more round of by election.
"I am very happy. From the beginning I had predicted we (BN) will win as that is our area. Isa (Mohd Isa Abdul Samad) is strong there and the Indians also supported him.
"I believed he would win although another BN candidate would also have won. Now we have to look after other areas.
"We can win in opposition areas," the former premier told reporters after attending a Hari Raya function organised by the Pusat Bandar Cempaka Umno branch here on Sunday night.
He reminded party members not to be swayed by the win to the point of forgetting to discharge the duties that they had been entrusted with.
"If Umno becomes very passionate with the win in one place while losing in other areas...if we lose (sight of) our responsibilities, I believe that in the coming general election maybe we will not achieve a good victory or we will not win," Mahathir said.
Asked if the win in Bagan Pinang was a sign that Umno was accepted in the area, he said it was a fact that the party had support in the area.
Isa's contributions not forgotten
In Port Dickson last night, Umno vice-president Hishammuddin Hussein said among the factors that contributed to BN's win were the personality and leadership of the former Negeri Sembilan MB which endeared him to the constituents.
He said the win also proved that the voters in the area did not forget the services and contributions of Mohd Isa, who is also the Teluk Kemang Umno division chief.
"Their support has been translated into votes although various allegations were thrown at him until polling day," he told reporters after the announcement of the by-election result.
Umno secretary-general Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor said the bigger majority-win indicated that Isa and BN were accepted by the multiracial voters in the constituency.
He said the victory was made even more meaningful with the good non-Malay support, especially from the Indian voters, with all the ballot boxes favouring BN.
Wanita Umno chief Shahrizat Abdul Jalil regarded BN's victory in Bagan Pinang as a victory for the people who wanted peace and stability in the country.
Meanwhile, Puteri Umno head Rosnah Abdul Rashid Shirlin hoped the BN leadership would maintain the victorious momentum in Bagan Pinang for BN to perform better in the future.
She told Bernama that BN should not be complacent after the win, but instead be spurred to work harder to secure victory in the next general election.
In the Bagan Pinang state by-election today, BN defended the seat when Mohd Isa defeated Pas' Zulkefly Mohamad Omar with a majority of 5,435 votes.
Mohd Isa garnered 8,013 votes against Zulkefly's 2,578 votes.
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What happened to the tainted candidate story, Mahathir? Now you twist your tongue to avoid being boycotted by UMNO? Wahahaha! Typical UMNO man! Unprincipled, corrupted and full of sh*t! Wahahaha!Oh yeah! Congratulations to the voters too! You just showed your support to corruption! May God save you all now!
OK we accept the fact that BN has beeen accepted by the non malays.
Let us try in Perak.
Ask the Behrang assy. man to resign and will try one more round of by election.
Bagan Pinang - Umno big win weakens the PAS
The PAS has accepted its defeat in the Bagan Pinang state by-election but has named postal votes as a factor for its failure to wrest away the Barisan Nasional (BN) stronghold.
However, observers believe the PAS was pretty left on its own to feel how it is to be 'trashed' by UMNO's powerful machinery. The same observers believe if the PKR had fiielded a candidate, the margin of victory of the UMNO would have been lesser but this is now history and nothing will prove such a theory unless the PKR fields its candidate at Bagan Pinang in the next G.E.
On the other hand, the UMNO is reeling in victory with the big win against the PAS and the Pakatan in the by-election, a win that will surely bring back the confidence of the BN.
The Bagan Pinang election is a real turn around for the BN since it will give the coalition the belief that it is abck in the popular ratings and it can now face-off Anwar Ibrahim and his Pakatan anytime. The Bagan Pinang is also a stepping stone for the BN to launch its campaign in Sarawak for the next Parliamentary elections in the state. The large victory will be publicized in such a way as to portray a return of the Indians, the Chinese and the bulk of the Malay community to the BN.
It will also be possible that a big win by the BN in Sarawak will also trigger the idea that a 'snap' General Electons in Malaysia may give the BN a bigger win and get back its 2/3rd majority that is now missing in the National Parliament.
The BN's pattern is now seen as follows:
The MCA has decided to vote against a leader who might have opened a pandora's box that would have endangered the Barisan coalition over some accusations of malpractices. The Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak made it clear that the MCA must clean its image and bring back the Chinese community support to the BN. This surely is in view of the next G.E.
The MIC is now trumpeting that in Bagan Pinang, it has finally reversed the negative responses from the Indian community and it has delivered the majority of the Indian community's vote to the BN. This is again a preview of what the Prime Minister is expecting for the next G.E.
With the Bagan Pinang result, the BN may now campaign that it has done what it takes to win back popular support despite the fact that Tun Mahathir's rejection of the BN candidate on grounds of his previous indictment for corrupt practices.
Now what about the Pakatan opposition? Loosing one battle does not mean they lost the war for the next G.Election. The fact that the Pakatan was not really present at Bagan Pinang and the 'froglighting' attitude of the PAS to join the BN soon and abandon the PR has had a negative effect on the votes for the opposition.
Now that the PAS has felt the wrath of the Umno and is tasting the bitter pill of defeat at the hands of its future 'fiancee', the PAS may turn around and seal the pact with the Pakatan to form a new coalition for the next G.E.
Nevertheless, the PAS is still a threat to the PR and its big defeat is probably a statement to the PR parties that the PAS is not really needed in the PR and that it could finally join the BN to salvage its future or what is left of it.
The PR may still survive without the PAS - and if it is joined by the PAS members who would break away from PAS in the event the PAS were to leave the PR.
The next landmark event for the PR will be the 'sodomy' trial against Anwar Ibrahim which will probably get to see its conclusion before the holding of the next General Elections in Sarawak. The Pakatan is also learning that in politics, the three big sins are: 1. Failure to deliver (like in Kpg Buah Palah in Penang), 2. Disunity and mistrust (like that between PAS-DAP and PAS-PKR), and 3. Leapfrogging is betraying (and it works both ways). Perhaps the PR will now find solace and seek more unity within its ranks while the members who are dreaming of ministerial posts should just leapfrog and face their future on their own.
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Look, most of these people are from the older generation, ie. the chinese and indians of BP. They obviously are afraid of PAS for obvious reasons. So, better vote for BN, status quo. They flourish under BN prior 3/8. This is what I gathered from most people. So, to say that BN is still relevant, who are you kidding? MCA/MIC is definitely not relevant long time ago! Let UMNO stand on its own and see how they fair. Dare they call for a snap election on the whole country and watch the results, muyiddin? Sheesh..... I believe BN will be wiped out or something drastic may change for the better of all in 3 years time!
However, observers believe the PAS was pretty left on its own to feel how it is to be 'trashed' by UMNO's powerful machinery. The same observers believe if the PKR had fiielded a candidate, the margin of victory of the UMNO would have been lesser but this is now history and nothing will prove such a theory unless the PKR fields its candidate at Bagan Pinang in the next G.E.
On the other hand, the UMNO is reeling in victory with the big win against the PAS and the Pakatan in the by-election, a win that will surely bring back the confidence of the BN.
The Bagan Pinang election is a real turn around for the BN since it will give the coalition the belief that it is abck in the popular ratings and it can now face-off Anwar Ibrahim and his Pakatan anytime. The Bagan Pinang is also a stepping stone for the BN to launch its campaign in Sarawak for the next Parliamentary elections in the state. The large victory will be publicized in such a way as to portray a return of the Indians, the Chinese and the bulk of the Malay community to the BN.
It will also be possible that a big win by the BN in Sarawak will also trigger the idea that a 'snap' General Electons in Malaysia may give the BN a bigger win and get back its 2/3rd majority that is now missing in the National Parliament.
The BN's pattern is now seen as follows:
The MCA has decided to vote against a leader who might have opened a pandora's box that would have endangered the Barisan coalition over some accusations of malpractices. The Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak made it clear that the MCA must clean its image and bring back the Chinese community support to the BN. This surely is in view of the next G.E.
The MIC is now trumpeting that in Bagan Pinang, it has finally reversed the negative responses from the Indian community and it has delivered the majority of the Indian community's vote to the BN. This is again a preview of what the Prime Minister is expecting for the next G.E.
With the Bagan Pinang result, the BN may now campaign that it has done what it takes to win back popular support despite the fact that Tun Mahathir's rejection of the BN candidate on grounds of his previous indictment for corrupt practices.
Now what about the Pakatan opposition? Loosing one battle does not mean they lost the war for the next G.Election. The fact that the Pakatan was not really present at Bagan Pinang and the 'froglighting' attitude of the PAS to join the BN soon and abandon the PR has had a negative effect on the votes for the opposition.
Now that the PAS has felt the wrath of the Umno and is tasting the bitter pill of defeat at the hands of its future 'fiancee', the PAS may turn around and seal the pact with the Pakatan to form a new coalition for the next G.E.
Nevertheless, the PAS is still a threat to the PR and its big defeat is probably a statement to the PR parties that the PAS is not really needed in the PR and that it could finally join the BN to salvage its future or what is left of it.
The PR may still survive without the PAS - and if it is joined by the PAS members who would break away from PAS in the event the PAS were to leave the PR.
The next landmark event for the PR will be the 'sodomy' trial against Anwar Ibrahim which will probably get to see its conclusion before the holding of the next General Elections in Sarawak. The Pakatan is also learning that in politics, the three big sins are: 1. Failure to deliver (like in Kpg Buah Palah in Penang), 2. Disunity and mistrust (like that between PAS-DAP and PAS-PKR), and 3. Leapfrogging is betraying (and it works both ways). Perhaps the PR will now find solace and seek more unity within its ranks while the members who are dreaming of ministerial posts should just leapfrog and face their future on their own.
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Look, most of these people are from the older generation, ie. the chinese and indians of BP. They obviously are afraid of PAS for obvious reasons. So, better vote for BN, status quo. They flourish under BN prior 3/8. This is what I gathered from most people. So, to say that BN is still relevant, who are you kidding? MCA/MIC is definitely not relevant long time ago! Let UMNO stand on its own and see how they fair. Dare they call for a snap election on the whole country and watch the results, muyiddin? Sheesh..... I believe BN will be wiped out or something drastic may change for the better of all in 3 years time!
Bagan Pinang: “Malaysian style democracy at its best.”
1. Most of my friends were not surprised with the results of the Bagan Pinang election that concluded yesterday. In my initial write, I had anticipated that Isa will win and I said;” Kalau tak monang bosar, tak tahulah apo nak di kato”. Well Isa actually win big time. Some of the MSM highlight Isa with accolades from “Zero to Hero”. Reality is BN won because they did whatever it takes to ensure that they win. They left nothing to chance.
2. The soldiers votes has always been useful tool in ensuring that BN wins in the past getting the soldiers was always done in a covert manner under the guidance of a particular cell within the intelligence community in Mindef. In Bagan Pinang, the army went into full swing and campaign openly. They are no longer worried or no longer being embarrassed.
3. In Bagan Pinang, evidence has been surfacing in a piecemeal basis that top brass involvement in campaigning among the soldiers. In a speech at IJED, it appears that an officer who is believe to be the camp commandant, openly throw allegiance to the government and the PM. This was recorded on you tube in the presence of Panglima Markas Medan, Defense Minister, Deputy Defense Minister and the MB of N9. Soldiers cheered to the call made by the Minister and the officers on the various promises that they made. Incentives and fear has been injected into the men.
4. I am not too concern about politician promises as it expected to be an empty promises. Be it a swimming pool or an enlarge surau or houses we will talk about it when it comes. Otherwise we can just take them as empty promises. However, I am particularly concern about the involvement of officers in the election. It seems the contest is not between BN the political party and PR but between the Malaysian Government and PR. Information from friends showed that Middle rung and junior officers were given the responsibility to dishing out RM300 to each soldier. Apparently they receive orders from the top.
5. The “Panglima Medan” has no business to be attending any political campaign under whatever disguises function it may be. The Commander has no business to throw allegiance behind the PM or anyone else. Our allegiance as a soldier is to the King and the country. The army should have stayed neutral. It is quite obvious that the Mindef top brass has no balls or their balls are kept safely by someone. To these officers who have betrayed the country, the people and the King, they should resign. There is no two way about. If I ever see the Panglima Medan, I will spit on his face in front of his man and by doing that I am honoring the country and the King.
6. BN won this election because of Army involvement, Isa samad popularity and PR loose political cohesion. The Indian vote’s swings to BN contribute significantly. It was reported that BN won in all 8 polling streams. This means that even the young population in the area also did not support PR. I would assume the majority of the young voters that were internet savvy and would be living in KL or in other major towns. Those who stayed back were few of them and the probability of having internet access is low.
7. This election is a good election for a case study. There is a lesson learn for both parties. PAS needs to show that it can strengthen PR. I think in a way some PAS members head has outgrown their skull cap. Measures must be taken to enhance the transparency of political votes. Any abuse of power must be stemmed fairly. PR must consider setting up a dedicated team of people to monitor and records all the abuses done by the BN government.
8. For BN, I am sure they are still celebrating but it would not last as tranquility of the PD beach will soon rocked in waves from two political camps in UMNO N9. BN need to watch out as they have now officially endorsed “political corruption” as a way of life which they have been denying all this while.
9. To the Armed Forces top brass that was involved in the politics of Bagan Pinang direct or indirectly, I have only one thing to say; YOU ARE TRAITORS AND A DISGRACE TO THE NATION, RESIGN NOW!
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The Panglimas' BALLS are in the hands of FAT LADY. What the Panglimas' can do? Practically she is sitting and anchored herself in MINDEF. Name me ONE soldier who has balls to go against her?
the girlfriend of the carpet boy thinks, she is more powerful than the sultans
LET US SEE ANY OF THE MEMBER OF THE MONARCHY HAS THE POWER TO OVER RIDE HER?
PAS Accepts Defeat But Questions Postal Votes System
PAS has accepted its defeat in the Bagan Pinang state by-election but has named postal votes as a factor for its failure to wrest away the Barisan Nasional (BN) stronghold.
PAS vice-president and the party’s Bagan Pinang election director, Salahuddin Ayub, claimed that the party’s loss was caused by the “fear-factor” of gangsterism that made it difficult for the party to reach 13,664 voters in the area.
“PAS accepts the decision but remains committed to striving for a more transparent postal vote system,” he told reporters after the result was announced that BN’s Tan Sri Mohd Isa Samad had defeated PAS’ Zulkefly Omar by a majority of 5,435 votes.
Isa, the former Negeri Sembilan Menteri Besar garnered 8,013 votes while Zulkefly, who is the state PAS commissioner had 2,578 votes.
For postal votes, BN had 3,521 votes while PAS had 601 votes from the total postal votes of 4,604 made up of 4,571 military votes and the rest from the police.
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Wake up PAS...it's not everyday these BN fellas drop dead, You fellas blew a chance to make a point. You knew very well that our soldier boys and estate colleagues will sell the country for RM200...so no point saying you tak tau...
The infighting in PR is not doing any good to the opposition. It certainly affected this by election result, but by this much of votes, its really give us a reality check of the power of the postal votes.
PR should have a realtiy check, and devise a plan to take on the next by-election if any, and also the next GE. If they can't come up with a good plan and also a common agreed principle, they will be really sorry to lose it all.
PAS vice-president and the party’s Bagan Pinang election director, Salahuddin Ayub, claimed that the party’s loss was caused by the “fear-factor” of gangsterism that made it difficult for the party to reach 13,664 voters in the area.
“PAS accepts the decision but remains committed to striving for a more transparent postal vote system,” he told reporters after the result was announced that BN’s Tan Sri Mohd Isa Samad had defeated PAS’ Zulkefly Omar by a majority of 5,435 votes.
Isa, the former Negeri Sembilan Menteri Besar garnered 8,013 votes while Zulkefly, who is the state PAS commissioner had 2,578 votes.
For postal votes, BN had 3,521 votes while PAS had 601 votes from the total postal votes of 4,604 made up of 4,571 military votes and the rest from the police.
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Wake up PAS...it's not everyday these BN fellas drop dead, You fellas blew a chance to make a point. You knew very well that our soldier boys and estate colleagues will sell the country for RM200...so no point saying you tak tau...
The infighting in PR is not doing any good to the opposition. It certainly affected this by election result, but by this much of votes, its really give us a reality check of the power of the postal votes.
PR should have a realtiy check, and devise a plan to take on the next by-election if any, and also the next GE. If they can't come up with a good plan and also a common agreed principle, they will be really sorry to lose it all.
WE SAID "NO TO ISA" BUT MORE SAID "YES TO ISA".
YES, we lost but those who were behind PAS sure did believe that they backed the right organisation. Perhaps, it is time to put rhetorics aside and get down to asking WHY we lost, HOW did we lose, WHAT we need to do. We just lost a battle. Lets lick our wounds and do some soul searching. Probably we were too "drunk" with past successes. Pakatan Rakyat needs to bare themselves BARE and decide once and for all: Are we a coalition that is united only for elections? Have we the moral courage to amputate or cauterize what can be saved. It is about time we be humble and say we did not do some things right. What those wrong things are we need to talk about them.
Let me put on record that it was an honor working beside YB Dzulkifly Ahmad, YB Salahuddin Ayub, YB Mafuz and our calon Dr. Zul. Gentlemen, we will bend our knees in humility but will rise in dignity to fight another day.
My gratitude also goes to the Special Bunch and all those who helped us financially, and who harbored us in our quest to do what we like to do best: fight for change. People I salute you....we will walk again together another time. Go home now to your family, satisfied that you gave your best.
We have to learn many lessons in this ardous journey. People, I salute you
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PR have to do a post mortem and genuinely ask themselves, why they LOST ???
Even a bigger margin. There is no time hiding the truth and be sensible and honest. Internal bickering in Selangor is the best example. MSM took full advantage of this issue.
PAS PKR DAP has to make a Big Shakeup in this coalition to clear the unnecessary. Or else I'm afraid PR winning streaks stops here and a roll-back situation may happen.
PR, in trust we will move forward to dislodge BN.
Maybe the RM100 and saris are working for BN otherwise how come the Indians are shifting their support to BN? I don't think whasisname Tharenthiren or MIC have any relevance than the saris or muruku powder.
Isa won due to sympathy.
He was framed according to coffee shop talk by Najib.
Isa has won the sympathy due to his suffering with his wife who died.
Kampung Malays are soft hearted and forgiving.. they do not see . Isa has to change..the Malays can be dammining too.
He is given a chance..He better prove his worth or this might just be the big one before the final count dowm for BN
Let me put on record that it was an honor working beside YB Dzulkifly Ahmad, YB Salahuddin Ayub, YB Mafuz and our calon Dr. Zul. Gentlemen, we will bend our knees in humility but will rise in dignity to fight another day.
My gratitude also goes to the Special Bunch and all those who helped us financially, and who harbored us in our quest to do what we like to do best: fight for change. People I salute you....we will walk again together another time. Go home now to your family, satisfied that you gave your best.
We have to learn many lessons in this ardous journey. People, I salute you
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PR have to do a post mortem and genuinely ask themselves, why they LOST ???
Even a bigger margin. There is no time hiding the truth and be sensible and honest. Internal bickering in Selangor is the best example. MSM took full advantage of this issue.
PAS PKR DAP has to make a Big Shakeup in this coalition to clear the unnecessary. Or else I'm afraid PR winning streaks stops here and a roll-back situation may happen.
PR, in trust we will move forward to dislodge BN.
Maybe the RM100 and saris are working for BN otherwise how come the Indians are shifting their support to BN? I don't think whasisname Tharenthiren or MIC have any relevance than the saris or muruku powder.
Isa won due to sympathy.
He was framed according to coffee shop talk by Najib.
Isa has won the sympathy due to his suffering with his wife who died.
Kampung Malays are soft hearted and forgiving.. they do not see . Isa has to change..the Malays can be dammining too.
He is given a chance..He better prove his worth or this might just be the big one before the final count dowm for BN
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