under fired then PERKASA has no ball....Perkasa says bible-burning threat meant to prevent violence

Despite facing heat for Datuk Ibrahim Ali’s bible-burning remark, Malay rights group Perkasa have insisted their president’s words were actually a “wake-up call” to prevent possible violence against distributors of bibles containing the word “Allah” and other Arabic scripts.

The group’s secretary-general, Syed Hassan Syed Ali, said Ibrahim has no problem facing the consequences of his remarks, including being questioned by the police due to the reports lodged against him.

“To the Perkasa president, he is sure not worried about these reports... because the investigation will surely be based on truth and justice,” he said .

But Syed Hassan maintained that Ibrahim’s statement was more to prevent possible physical violence and other untoward incidents, should these Malay-language bibles get into the hands of Muslim students.

If this is seen by Muslims who view this as an attempt at apostasy, the Perkasa leader said violence could be used against the book’s distributor.

“I very much understand my president’s statement because it is as a ‘wake-up call’ to all parties to prevent these untoward incidents.

“This is what the president fears because then there would be a physical attack between those of different faiths... this is not good for the nation,” he said.

Syed Hassan also confirmed that Ibrahim has been contacted by the police over the reports lodged against the latter by several parties, including DAP chairman Karpal Singh.

Investigations will commence in another day or two, he added.

Karpal lodged the report on Tuesday in a bid to press Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail to kickstart an investigation against Ibrahim, who came under fire after making the remarks in Penang over the weekend.

The fiery Malay rights leader had called on Muslims to burn Malay language bibles that contain the words “Allah” and other religious Arabic scripts should it come into their possession.

But when continuing his defence of Ibrahim’s remarks here, Syed Hassan said that Perkasa has never in the past attacked Christianity.

He said the group was merely protecting Islam and its position, as enshrined in the Federal Constitution, and this includes rejecting those who insult the religion and who try to spread their own faiths to Muslims.

“Before this, all other races lived in peace. But today, simply because there are parties using this for political expediency, they are willing to flare the sentiments of others,” he said.

Ibrahim’s remarks had immediately sparked furore among Christians and politicians across the political divide and invited calls on the government to cite Ibrahim for sedition.

Barisan Nasional (BN) component party MIC also took offence to Ibrahim’s remarks and urged the government to take stern action against the fiery leader.

Joining the chorus of disapproval, Bar Council president Lim Chee Wee said yesterday that although the Bar still maintains that the Sedition Act should be repealed, it must be impartially applied against Ibrahim given that authorities have charged opposition leaders under the same Act.

In a statement here, National Evangelical Christian Fellowship (NECF) chairman Reverend Dr Eu Hong Seng, described the threat an “unfortunate proposal” but reminded Malaysians to be moderate in their responses to the threat.

“This unfortunate proposal to burn Malay Bibles containing the word ‘Allah’ serves as a serious reminder to all Malaysians to be more measured in our responses, the next time we hear of some unreasonable people in the West wanting to burn other people’s Scriptures, because we too have our fair share of unreasonable people,” he said.

The “Allah” dispute, which first erupted after the watershed Election 2008, remains a hot-button topic in the run-up to this year’s polls.

Debate resurfaced last month after DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng, who is also the Penang Chief Minister, called on Putrajaya in his Christmas message to lift a ban on Malay-language bibles in Borneo Malaysia.

Hot on the heels of the DAP leader’s remarks, several state Rulers and Islamic religious authorities reminded non-Muslims of state laws banning use of the word, despite conflicting with a 2009 High Court judgment that ruled “Allah” was not exclusive to Islam

 

 

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Eh..where are Chua CD and other MCA ministers ?
Shouldn't these so called leaders do or at least say something ?

It is very sad to see Chua Soi Lek always attacks the Opposition parties for supporting Islamic party PAS. When Ibrahim Ali threatened to burn Bible, Chua Soi Lek, a Christian himself ,dares not voice out a single word. That goes to MIC...diam diam sahaja despite many members are Christians.

Arabic is a language used in the Arab lands (middle east). Not all Arabs are Muslims. These non-Muslim Arabs record their holy texts (the Bible) in Arabic. The Arabs (both Muslims and non-Muslims) refer to God as Allah and therefore the Arab-language bibles refers to God as Allah.

His statement means that our Muslim friends are easily influenced by other religion... Our muslim's friends children started their religion school very much earlier than any other ethnic group.Do you think they can be easily be influenced. Very stupid statement.

Burning malay-language bible to avoid violent... another stupid reason. bY BURNING the bible will make hatred from other group... so this will avoid violent???? OMG He should go back to kindergarden to start moral lesson again

Opposition accused communist agent but apparently UMNO are father of all communist agents....Top Chinese leader’s Kuantan visit seen to boost BN

Top Chinese leader Jia Qinglin will open a China-backed industrial park in Kuantan next month, in what is seen as Barisan Nasional’s (BN) push for the key community’s vote and a show of investor confidence despite the nearby Lynas rare earth project.

It understands that China is also considering special agreements and incentives for Malaysia, apart from close co-operation in the past to build Penang’s second bridge and sending two rare pandas here for a year.

It is also learnt the Najib administration wants to show that they have the confidence of the Chinese government in carrying out joint-projects such as the 607ha park in Kuantan, which is expected to attract some RM7 billion in investments and create 5,500 job opportunities upon completion in 2020.

Jia , the outgoing fourth most-senior Politburo member, will launch the Malaysia-China Kuantan Industrial Park (MCKIP) this February 5 along with Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak.

The Singapore Straits Times cited analysts who said recent joint ventures between Malaysia and China have helped boost bilateral ties, and could help the Najib administration get better support from the Chinese community here, ahead of the 13th general election.

“While Malaysia’s and China’s businessmen have been dealing closely with one another for decades, in recent years, the two governments have visibly strengthened their trade and official ties as well,” the paper quoted political analyst Oh Ei Sun of the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies as saying.

Newspaper columnist Koh Kok Wee observed that recent initiatives with China taken by Malaysia have been tailored towards both economic and political gains.

“Mr Najib has been blessed with his father’s legacy. The Chinese have taken to him because they still remember warmly Tun Abdul Razak’s historic visit to China in 1974,” Koh was quoted as saying by ST.

Malaysia was the first ASEAN nation to establish diplomatic ties with China, following the 1974 visit, ST added.

“But whether the recent moves will sway Chinese Malaysian voters is unclear. It’s a different generation from when [Tun] Abdul Razak visited China,” the paper wrote.

Najib, Malaysia’s sixth prime minister, will soon be leading the ruling Barisan Nasional (BN) coalition into federal polls, which observers believe will be the most closely fought electoral battle to date.

According to a recent survey by the University of Malaya Centre of Democracy and Election (UMCEDEL), the Chinese community and young voters make up most of the fence sitters who will determine the winner of Election 2013.

A total of 1,409 voters were polled by the centre recently on whether they thought BN or Pakatan Rakyat (PR) would win, with 42 per cent saying the former will win and 37 per cent saying the latter will win.

For hot issues over the past year, such as the National Feedlot Centre (NFC) scandal, the controversial Lynas rare-earth plant and crime, those who said they would cause a drop in support for BN stood at 62 per cent, 61 per cent and 51 per cent respectively.

A whopping 95 per cent of Chinese voters polled were concerned about integrity.

Other key issues for the Chinese community are the increase of the nation’s debt attributed to the alleged weak management of the economy at 89 per cent, while the Lynas plant and increase in the prices of goods were at 86 and 82 per cent respectively.

 

 

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don't think china men come here for betterment of rakyat. their purpose is MAIN PROFITS and has nothing politic about bringing boost to bn's confidence in malaysian chinese voters. further more, these china-men will NOT EMPLOY those who are fluent in BM !!!

If a mere visit by a leader of China can boost BN's chances, implying that the minds of our local Chinese can be so easily changed and so fickle, it is a big insult to every right thinking Malaysian Chinese.

China Senior Leaders will not help to boost up BN,even local Chinese Community leaders can't help,all because majority of the Malaysian Chinese already fed up with BN

action of who has no balls....Perkasa threatens to pull support for MCA, MIC over ‘Allah’ Bible-burning row

Malay rights group Perkasa today threatened to stop supporting Barisan Nasional (BN) parties MCA and MIC after it earned brickbats from party leaders for urging Muslims to burn bibles containing the word “Allah” and other religious Arabic words.

In a statement here, the controversial group explained that its president Datuk Ibrahim Ali’s (picture) statement on the matter had been misinterpreted as he had merely been referring to Malay-language bibles.

“I confirm that the Perkasa president did mention the words ‘burn the Bible’ but he did not mean the original English-language books.

“He meant the Malay-language bibles that use ‘Allah’ and Jawi writing,” Perkasa secretary-general Syed Hassan Syed Ali said in the statement.

According to recent media reports, Ibrahim had made the call on Saturday at a Perkasa convention in Permatang Pauh, Penang.

He was quoted in one news portal as explaining his reason, claiming he was not instigating communal tension but offering a solution to stop non-Muslims from infringing on the sensitivities of the Muslims, the country’s most dominant ethnic group.

After Ibrahim’s remarks, MIC leader S. Vell Paari urged the government to punish the right-wing Perkasa president or face the possibility of bleeding its non-Muslim votes.

Irked, Syed Hassan replied today, saying: “Do not force us to change the oath we took during our national congress last December to stand united in our support for all BN candidates, including those from MCA and MIC.”

He also reminded the MIC that it needed Malay votes for the coming polls if it wanted to win.

“To Vell Paari, Perkasa would like to remind him that MIC too needs the Malay votes.

“Perkasa views these [Malay-language] bibles as not the original ones and its purpose is nothing more than to confuse the Muslims to leave their religion and convert to Christianity,” he said.

Perkasa also condemned law expert Syahredzan Johan for saying that Ibrahim could face legal action under sections 298 and 505 of the Penal Code, and asked the lawyer why he had not offered his opinion on proselytisation.

Perkasa has often been at loggerheads with non-Muslims, including politicians from the MCA, MIC and Gerakan, for its controversial right-wing Malay ideals.

Pakatan Rakyat (PR) lawmakers have often challenged BN’s non-Muslim leaders to speak out against the non-governmental organisation, arguing that its failure to distance itself from the group would result in a loss of non-Muslim support for the ruling pact when polls are called.

 

 

 

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I wonder what would happened if any non-malays calls for Quran in english or chinese to be burned. I am sure all of sudden malaysians will see the so called sedition acts will come into picture. If it is the other way around like what it is happening now it is going to be a non-issue. In this bolehland it is as if malays only have sensitivity other races do not have.

Ibrahim...do you know barking dogs dont bite? If you dare say it then do it. Dont use threats. People will not tolerate your nonsense. God will punish you severely in one way or the other. So dont ask for trouble. I am kind enough to advise you. Take heed.

This b a s t a r d has nothing in his head other than making threats. That is all he is good for.

He kept threatening others with malay support and dumb about the fact thst more and more malays are tired of communal politics and are supporting pakatan.

ibrahim, you will be the only katak left standing alone when all is said and done.

bank islam a tool of politic thug....Allegations not criminal, police report an intimidation tactic, says Bank Islam economist

Azrul Azwar Ahmad Tajuddin has defended himself against his employer Bank Islam Malaysia, saying today the bank’s police report against him is an intimidation tactic and their allegations are a civil matter and not criminal in nature.

The bank announced today it has filed two police reports against their suspended chief economist, accusing him of possessing and leaking confidential documents to a third party.

“In response to the police report lodged against me, I wish to reiterate that the allegations contained in the police report made by my employer do not constitute any criminal offences.

“At most, it is only a civil matter which is now the subject of an internal inquiry between my employer and myself. I cannot see why this matter is now being turned into a police case,” Azrul (picture) said in a four-paragraph statement today.

He appeared to accuse Bank Islam of using the police reports to intimidate and harass him.

“This heavy-handedness is nothing but an intimidation and harassment tactic against me,” he said, adding that he is currently seeking legal advice and will instruct his lawyers to take further action if necessary.

Azrul told The Malaysian Insider today that he was not aware of the second police report.

Bank Islam today wrote in a brief three-paragraph media statement: “The suspension is due to Azrul’s violation of the Bank’s internal policies, the details of which have been conveyed to Azrul in the show cause letter, handed to him on 17 January 2013.”

“In the course of our investigation into these breaches, the Bank discovered evidence of other violations which warranted us to make a police report on 18 January 2013.

“Upon further investigations, the Bank lodged a second police report today,” the bank added.

It reiterated that Azrul’s suspension had nothing to do with his presentation at a regional economic conference in Singapore early this month, where he predicted that the ruling Barisan Nasional (BN) could lose this year’s general election to Pakatan Rakyat (PR).

Bank Islam Malaysia’s main shareholder is the Lembaga Tabung Haji, which is a government-linked fund in charge of Muslims performing the Haj.

The bank lodged a police complaint against the economist last Friday, accusing him of violating its internal policies and code of ethics which it said amounted to criminal offences.

A copy of the police report was scanned and put online.

In the police report, the bank’s head of human resources Jamilah Abdul Sallam, said Azrul had been found to be in possession of the minutes of the bank’s board of directors’ meeting deemed to be confidential and sensitive as it involved a corporate exercise proposal involving Bank Islam.

“Mr Azrul who had no access and authority to the documents had handed those documents to an unrelated third party without approval.

“The documents were scanned and sent by email to a third party on 21 June 2012 at 12.36pm. The email was titled TOP SECRET,” Jamilah said in her police report, which has been posted on several blogs http://thebenchmark0.blogspot.com/2013/01/bank-islams-police-report-against-wawa.html.

Dang Wangi district police chief, ACP Zainuddin Ahmad, confirmed Bank Islam had lodged the second police report earlier today, but declined to disclose further information.

“Ya, we received a police report from Bank Islam on Azrul Azwar. It was made this morning.

“I cannot disclose any further information on the case, but we will investigate with the evidence and testimony given,” he told .

Azrul was suspended from his duties by the bank on January 14 after he was reported by Singapore’s The Straits Times to have predicted a narrow win in Election 2013 by Pakatan Rakyat (PR) as the most likely out of three possible scenarios.

In a report by The Straits Times, Azrul Azwar’s calculations found that one of the most likely scenarios was that the ruling Barisan Nasional (BN) coalition would likely win only between 97 and 107 of the 222 parliamentary seats, which are insufficient to form the next administration.

But the result would also mean that PR will only gain a shaky hold over Parliament, far from the supermajority once enjoyed by its rival.

The two other likely scenarios reportedly presented by Azrul Azwar was that there would be a narrow win for BN and a bigger win for PR.

Azrul Azwar had taken into account factors such as race and demographics.

He had also forecasted that under the most likely scenario of a narrow win by PR, a fallout would result, with the stock market set to respond in a “knee-jerk” fashion as well as an extended period of perceived instability.

He also did not rule out the possibility of “economic sabotage” by businesses and the civil service that are aligned with BN.

 

 

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It is NOT a 'bank'; it is an institution of political thugs!!!! What would the scenario be if Azrul had lied about the truth and issued a false report praising umno-bn to win GE13?!

Bank should not in the first place mix business with politics and if PR wins BIG in GE 13, then Bank will has to face the consequences as proven in past banks like MUI!

Bank Islam is cutting its nose to spite its own face !

It is bad to accuse Azrul of stealing company secrets - it reflects very badly on the company's security system .

In they have evidence of criminal act, they can sack Azrul within 24hrs. There is no need to suspend him. The fact that they suspend him shows that they have no clear evidence - most likely fabricated ones !

This is just another of UMNO's culture of corruption, hatred and intolerance. Enough is enough!!! Time to put an end to the culture bu voting UMNO out. We want a culture of clean governance, love and tolerance. Right thinking Malaysians stand up for a counter-culture to UMNO's culture of corruption, hatred and intolerance!!!

Azrul, take your own legal recourse & fight for your rights. Your employer, who are lapdogs for UMNO is taking the short cut to terminate you from your employment as what you presented didn't favor them. Claim for constructive dismissal & claim compensations from them. You have a solid case to build on and win in the Industrial Court. Good luck.